On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:50:50 -0700
poelstra(a)redhat.com (John Poelstra) wrote:
Greetings Bug Triagers,
Thanks to those of you that came to the bug triage session at FUDCon
a couple of Saturdays back. Hopefully it was helpful and you'd still
like to join us. Things have gotten slightly better here
http://tinyurl.com/4cavl2 but we still need your help!
Our weekly bug triage meeting hasn't happened for several weeks and
we'd like to resume them again. Some of us were tied up with other
things and some people were unable to make the time. Also after
having a few meetings with one or two people it seemed unclear how
best to proceed.
So.... we know there are a lot of people interested in bug triage but
past meeting attendance hasn't been good so we'd like to try and fix
that. At least two or three people sign up for the 'fedorabugs'
group every day so there is a disconnect there somewhere we need to
fix. And if you think weekly meetings aren't the way to go and there
is a better way to proceed please put it forward.
I think it's harder and harder to find a good time to hold meetings for
Fedora groups, since we are getting more contributors from all over the
world (not that that is a bad problem to have!).
ITEM #1
I've created a matrix on this page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Scheduler to help
figure out a good time for people. PLEASE add your IRC nick or
initials to the best slots that work for you.
I really wish we would have something better than this...
Is there really no open source calendaring/scheduling app we could use?
Anyone?
I'm hoping we can gather together a core group of people that
will
meet each week to talk about bug triage, ways to improve process, and
tools to make it easier.
ITEM #2
I've raised this idea a couple of times now (and generally been shot
down), but since there has been little to no uptake in recent triage
related post I'm going to keep trying :) We made the decision back
in January to keep triage stuff on fedora-test-list because we wanted
the benefit of a larger audience of people that might be interested
in helping with bug triage. HOWEVER, I'm wondering if the "testing"
audience and that "triage" audience really aren't the same and as a
result we are directing new bug triage folks to sign up for
fedora-test-list where they receive 200 emails a week where only a
small handful of them are related to bug triage.
Would there be better response to "bug triage related posts" if they
were sent to a bug triage list only, and thus a very targeted
audience of people interested in bug triage?
I think another list is a bad idea. It would cause triagers to be off
in their own world. If folks find the volume hard, we could try and
setup topics? Or show people how to filter posts...
ITEM #3
It is completely possible that items #1 and #2 are completely
misdirected and that instead we should do ______________(you tell
us). I'm simply writing this message because somehow we need to find
a way to gather a core group of people around bug triage who can
consistently work on bug triage, collaborate, and make Fedora better
together by making sure our package maintainers have good bug reports
to work with. In doing so I believe we can encourage others to join
in too.
Yeah, I think meetings are great, but hard to figure out times. ;(
Thanks for reading!
John
kevin