Hi Ben,

Thanks for starting the discussion.

I agree with the intent. This has been a topic of discussion within the Fedora QA team for a while now and we have made some efforts to engage SIGs early in the cycle.

As far as the question of when the testing should be a focus from respective SIGs? In my humble opinion, it should be continuous and should be a priority in their respective upstream. SIGs start testing during RC will act as a helping hand but it won't prevent late findings of issue.

Cheers,
Sudhir


On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 1:28 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi friends,

I was a little concerned that we were running some tests during the
Go/No-Go last week, especially considering it seemed like we had most
of the blockers wrapped up well ahead of when we normally do. Part of
the answer, in my opinion, is to lean on some of the SIGs/WGs to take
a more active role in the testing process for RCs and the period
leading up to RCs.

In particular, I'd like to see the Server WG taking care of the Active
Directory tests (which is a non-trivial thing to remove our dependence
on sgallagh's setup, admittedly) and the Cloud SIG taking care of many
of those tests. The fact that we didn't have any AWS AMIs uploaded
until after the meeting started suggests there's a gap in our process.
And of course, pwhalen and coremodule could always use more support in
running ARM tests.

This isn't a criticism of the QA team, because y'all do a tremendous
job. And I don't want to suggest that _all_ of the testing be pushed
out onto other teams. But I'd like to start a conversation on how we
can spread the responsibility out more. This should hopefully make
everyone's life a little easier and make our Go/No-Go meetings more
efficient to boot.

Thoughts?

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