On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 10:42 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> > I'm trying to meet a (probably overly aggressive)
personal goal of
>> > having zero NEW rawhide bugs (which are not Package Reviews) by the time
>> > of Fedora 10 GA. Along the way I thought I'd post some of the
questions
>> > and issues I see while triaging these bugs so we can all learn. I
>> > encourage others to do the same. I've just knocked the list down to
>> > close to 500!
>> >
>> > If you want to join in and help the query for NEW rawhide bugs excluding
>> > package reviews is here:
http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
>> >
>> > Here is what I have so far:
>> >
>> > # Is there a general policy around using perl in pre/post ?
>> >
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462996
>>
>> Not that I know of, but it is good practice to avoid creating unneccessary
>> dependancies if there are alternatives, particularly if the choice is between
>> a large package & small package. Many perl scripts can be done just as
well
>> with a short piece of awk/sed. This makes it much easier for people who want
>> to build minimal/small Fedora images because they don't unneccessarily
>> bring in the entire of Perl just for a %post script. Not that I want to single
>> out perl - the same rationale would apply to unneccessary use of python, if
>> the use in question could be easily written in awk/sed.
>
> Fully agreed, but ... consider both python and perl
> * are part of the base-packages Fedora is based on.
> * there are other dependencies adding much more bloat to "minimal
> installs"
That's not entirely true.
Check "Base" in comps.xml, check mock's default setup - It's a
convention.
In fact its very easy now to run a complete
gnome desktop without perl at all.
[..]
In fact its very easy now to run a complete
gnome desktop without perl at all. I'm doing it quite successfully
with rawhide on my eeePC
I wish the same would apply to python, lua and others, it would spare
quite a number of bytes on my i586, because I am using perl, but don't
have much use for python ...
This will save a number of meg off the
build. Python is quite a bit harder as it is used in a lot of RH
systems packages.
Right, a major problem with RH based distros.
Ralf