Hi,
investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much time in F25.
I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.

start of dnf update  09:48

[joerg@linux ~]$ su
Passwort:
[root@linux joerg]# dnf update
Letzte Prüfung auf abgelaufene Metadaten: vor 0:06:22 am Thu Mar  2 09:41:58 2017.
Abhängigkeiten sind aufgelöst.
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 Package                    Arch   Version                       Paketquelle
                                                                          Größe
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Installieren:
 kernel                     x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   96 k
 kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   20 M
 kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   22 M
 kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  2.2 M
 libglvnd                   x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   89 k
 libglvnd-egl               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   43 k
 libglvnd-gles              x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   31 k
 libglvnd-glx               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates  124 k
Aktualisieren:
 NetworkManager-openvpn     x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates  237 k
 NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome
                            x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates   91 k
 audit                      x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  243 k
 audit-libs                 x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  106 k
 audit-libs-python          x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   77 k
 audit-libs-python3         x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   76 k
 breeze-icon-theme          noarch 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates  8.3 M
 copy-jdk-configs           noarch 2.2-2.fc25                    updates   19 k
 fedora-repos               noarch 25-2                          updates   88 k
 gnome-autoar               x86_64 0.2.0-1.fc25                  updates   49 k
 gnome-terminal             x86_64 3.22.1-5.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
 gspell                     x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc25                  updates   81 k
 gstreamer1                 x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free
                            x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.8 M
 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk
                            x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates   32 k
 gstreamer1-plugins-base    x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.5 M
 gstreamer1-plugins-good    x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  2.0 M
 ibus-typing-booster        noarch 1.5.22-1.fc25                 updates  3.8 M
 kde-style-breeze           x86_64 5.8.6-1.fc25                  updates  179 k
 kernel-headers             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  1.1 M
 kf5-filesystem             x86_64 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates   15 k
 libblockdev                x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   85 k
 libblockdev-btrfs          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
 libblockdev-crypto         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
 libblockdev-dm             x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
 libblockdev-fs             x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   42 k
 libblockdev-kbd            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
 libblockdev-loop           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
 libblockdev-lvm            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   48 k
 libblockdev-mdraid         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
 libblockdev-mpath          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   40 k
 libblockdev-part           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
 libblockdev-plugins-all    x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   34 k
 libblockdev-swap           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
 libblockdev-utils          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
 libnetfilter_conntrack     x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25                  updates   58 k
 libva                      x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25                  updates   89 k
 mesa-dri-drivers           x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   11 M
 mesa-filesystem            x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   24 k
 mesa-libEGL                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  103 k
 mesa-libGL                 x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  165 k
 mesa-libGLES               x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   22 k
 mesa-libgbm                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   42 k
 mesa-libglapi              x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   50 k
 mesa-libwayland-egl        x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   25 k
 mesa-libxatracker          x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
 open-vm-tools              x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  666 k
 open-vm-tools-desktop      x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  159 k
 openssh                    x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  476 k
 openssh-clients            x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  657 k
 openssh-server             x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  464 k
 osinfo-db                  noarch 20170225-1.fc25               updates  134 k
 ostree                     x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  179 k
 ostree-libs                x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  255 k
 oxygen-icon-theme          noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25               updates   29 M
 pciutils                   x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates  100 k
 pciutils-libs              x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates   50 k
 pcre                       x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  200 k
 pcre-utf16                 x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  190 k
 pcre2                      x86_64 10.23-2.fc25                  updates  210 k
 perl-threads               x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25                 updates   58 k
 perl-threads-shared        x86_64 1.55-1.fc25                   updates   44 k
 publicsuffix-list-dafsa    noarch 20170206-1.fc25               updates   44 k
 python3-blockdev           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   44 k
 python3-gstreamer1         x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  108 k
 python3-rpm                x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  105 k
 qca                        x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25                  updates  451 k
 rpm                        x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  517 k
 rpm-build-libs             x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  121 k
 rpm-libs                   x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  304 k
 rpm-plugin-selinux         x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
 rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
 selinux-policy             noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates  487 k
 selinux-policy-targeted    noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates  8.7 M
 sos                        noarch 3.3-1.fc25                    updates  397 k
 systemd                    x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  2.8 M
 systemd-container          x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  412 k
 systemd-libs               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  421 k
 systemd-pam                x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  178 k
 systemd-udev               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  1.3 M
 texlive-base               noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  1.4 M
 texlive-dvipng             noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1          updates   57 k
 texlive-dvipng-bin         x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   80 k
 texlive-kpathsea           noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1          updates  159 k
 texlive-kpathsea-bin       x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   56 k
 texlive-lib                x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  452 k
 texlive-metafont           noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1          updates  134 k
 texlive-metafont-bin       x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates  220 k
 texlive-tetex              noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1          updates  118 k
 texlive-tetex-bin          noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1
                                                                 updates   34 k
 texlive-texlive.infra      noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1          updates  165 k
 texlive-texlive.infra-bin  x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   32 k
 tracker                    x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
 vim-minimal                x86_64 2:8.0.386-1.fc25              updates  517 k
 xdg-desktop-portal-gtk     x86_64 0.5-3.fc25                    updates  104 k
 xen-libs                   x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  635 k
 xen-licenses               x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  108 k
 xorg-x11-drv-wacom         x86_64 0.34.0-4.fc25                 updates  311 k
Entfernen:
 kernel                     x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates   0 
 kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  53 M
 kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  22 M
 kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates 2.0 M

Transaktionsübersicht
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Installieren    8 Pakete
Aktualisieren  98 Pakete
Entfernen       4 Pakete

Gesamte Downloadgröße: 136 M
Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N]: j
Pakete werden heruntergeladen:
(1/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome-1.2.8-1.f 387 kB/s |  40 kB     00:00   
(2/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-1.2.8-1.fc25_1. 512 kB/s |  61 kB     00:00   
(3/106): audit-libs-python3-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3- 505 kB/s |  18 kB     00:00   
(4/106): audit-libs-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1.fc25.x 141 kB/s |  20 kB     00:00   
(5/106): audit-libs-python-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1 174 kB/s |  17 kB     00:00   
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[DRPM] systemd-udev-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig               
[DRPM] systemd-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                    
[DRPM] texlive-base-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig
[DRPM] texlive-metafont-svn40793-30.fc25_svn40793-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
[DRPM] texlive-texlive.infra-svn41280-30.fc25_svn41280-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
[DRPM] texlive-lib-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
[DRPM] xen-libs-4.7.1-8.fc25_4.7.1-9.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                 
[DRPM] texlive-tetex-svn41059-30.fc25_svn41059-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig  
[DRPM] tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25_1.10.5-1.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig                
[DRPM] oxygen-icon-theme-5.29.0-1.fc25_5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig      
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Gesamt                                          475 kB/s |  70 MB     02:30    
Delta RPMs reduziert 136.1 MB Aktualisierungen auf 69.9 MB (48.1% gespart)
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  Aktualisieren    : libblockdev-utils-1.9-9.fc25.x86_64                  1/208
  Aktualisieren    : texlive-base-6:2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch          2/208
  Aktualisieren    : systemd-libs-231-14.fc25.x86_64                      3/208
  Aktualisieren    : gstreamer1-1.10.4-1.fc25.x86_64                      4/208
  Aktualisieren    : audit-libs-2.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                       5/208
  Aktualisieren    : systemd-pam-231-14.fc25.x86_64                       6/208
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  Aktualisieren    : gspell-1.2.3-1.fc25.x86_64                         102/208
  Aktualisieren    : gnome-autoar-0.2.0-1.fc25.x86_64                   103/208
  Aktualisieren    : fedora-repos-25-2.noarch                           104/208
  Aktualisieren    : copy-jdk-configs-2.2-2.fc25.noarch                 105/208
  Aktualisieren    : breeze-icon-theme-5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch             106/208
 

timestamp    10:21



  Aufräumen        : libblockdev-plugins-all-1.9-8.fc25.x86_64          107/208
  Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64       108/208
  Aufräumen        : python3-rpm-4.13.0-6.fc25.x86_64                   109/208
  Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk-1.10.3-1.fc25.x8   110/208
  Aufräumen        : texlive-dvipng-bin-6:svn40473-30.20160520.fc25.x   111/208
  Aufräumen        : texlive-dvipng-6:svn40768-30.fc25.noarch           112/208
  Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64   113/208
  Aufräumen        : tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25.x86_64                       114/208
  Aufräumen        : ostree-2017.2-2.fc25.x86_64                        115/208
  Aufräumen        : openssh-server-7.4p1-2.fc25.x86_64                 116/208
  Aufräumen        : libva-1.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                          117/208
  Löschen          : kernel-4.9.7-201.fc25.x86_64                       118/208
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  Aufräumen        : libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-6.fc24.x86_64         205/208
  Aufräumen        : kde-style-breeze-5.8.5-1.fc25.x86_64               206/208
  Aufräumen        : gspell-1.2.2-1.fc25.x86_64                         207/208
  Aufräumen        : gnome-autoar-0.1.1-1.fc25.x86_64                   208/208
 
timestamp    10:37

 

 Überprüfung läuft: kernel-core-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                   1/208
  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                        2/208
  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-extra-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64          3/208
  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                4/208
  Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-egl-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64     5/208
  Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64         6/208
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  libblockdev-mdraid.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                         
  libblockdev-mpath.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                          
  libblockdev-part.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                           
  libblockdev-plugins-all.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                    
  libblockdev-swap.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                           
  libblockdev-utils.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                          
  libnetfilter_conntrack.x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25                                   
  libva.x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25                                                    
  mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                        
  mesa-filesystem.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                         
  mesa-libEGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                             
  mesa-libGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                              
  mesa-libGLES.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                            
  mesa-libgbm.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                             
  mesa-libglapi.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                           
  mesa-libwayland-egl.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                     
  mesa-libxatracker.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                                       
  open-vm-tools.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                                           
  open-vm-tools-desktop.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                                   
  openssh.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                                                  
  openssh-clients.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                                          
  openssh-server.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                                           
  osinfo-db.noarch 20170225-1.fc25                                             
  ostree.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                                                  
  ostree-libs.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                                             
  oxygen-icon-theme.noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25                                     
  pciutils.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                                                 
  pciutils-libs.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                                            
  pcre.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                                                      
  pcre-utf16.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                                                
  pcre2.x86_64 10.23-2.fc25                                                    
  perl-threads.x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25                                            
  perl-threads-shared.x86_64 1.55-1.fc25                                       
  publicsuffix-list-dafsa.noarch 20170206-1.fc25                               
  python3-blockdev.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                                           
  python3-gstreamer1.x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                                      
  python3-rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                           
  qca.x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25                                                      
  rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                                   
  rpm-build-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                        
  rpm-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                              
  rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                                    
  rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25                            
  selinux-policy.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25                                     
  selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25                            
  sos.noarch 3.3-1.fc25                                                        
  systemd.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                                   
  systemd-container.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                         
  systemd-libs.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                              
  systemd-pam.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                               
  systemd-udev.x86_64 231-14.fc25                                              
  texlive-base.noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25                                  
  texlive-dvipng.noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1                                   
  texlive-dvipng-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1                      
  texlive-kpathsea.noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1                                 
  texlive-kpathsea-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1                    
  texlive-lib.x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25                                   
  texlive-metafont.noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1                                 
  texlive-metafont-bin.x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1                    
  texlive-tetex.noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1                                    
  texlive-tetex-bin.noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1                     
  texlive-texlive.infra.noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1                            
  texlive-texlive.infra-bin.x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1               
  tracker.x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25 

update finished at  10:37

Question:   Are these update times ok, tolerable, or is this worthwhile for filing a bug?

My system is the same for F24 and F25.
Laptop, 1.7GHz, turbo boost up to 2.7 GHz
F25/F24 on an USB 3.0 flash medium, connected via USB 3.0 to the Laptop
Network: Cable TV internet, download 50GB/sec

The other problems (USB connected disks, usb flash media), there I am possibly one of very few users, I will make these investigations next time and report.
Kind regards




-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org>
An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Verschickt: Mi, 1. Mrz 2017 14:45
Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote: > - last dnf update took far too much time > - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time. > - usb connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or > external disk connected by an usb adapter in most trials, when I try > to eject the usb connected medium, there - after a copying process is > finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb medium in use", > this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had to > repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things > like that are not nice. These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent and probably are more to do with the specific configuration. The first two complaints are not actionable — the dnf problem might just be your network, and without any detail, we don't know what is holding up your system's shutdown. The third is likely a kernel issue, and may be something you can tune. Are you *sure* you don't have anything from the externel disk in use? The /sbin/lsof command can tell you. Have you tried typing "sync" at the command line before attempting to eject the disk? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org