2024-03-04 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
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# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: Quality
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Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-03-04 16:00:47
Meeting summary
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* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:00:51)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:44)
* INFO: there are no action items from the previous meeting
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:09)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 status (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:16:06)
* INFO: the anaconda webUI Change got deferred again, to Fedora 41
- https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3169#comment-896412
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:16:58)
* INFO: I have reverted/deferred all the wiki changes related to
this, and the official image is back to behaving as it did in f39 and
earlier (the osbuild image is still webui ATM, that should be fixed
soon) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:17:55)
* INFO: other than that, we're mostly looking solid for Fedora 40,
though there's some concerning stuff on the blocker list that's
relatively out of our hands - missing artwork, still no new signed shim
build (unless one showed up this morning) (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:24:01)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:31:48)
* INFO: i18n Test Day is coming up today or tomorrow (2024-03-05):
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-05_I18N_Test_Day ,
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:37:00)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:37:56)
Meeting ended at 2024-03-04 16:46:27
Action items
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People Present (lines said)
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* @adamwill:fedora.im (38)
* @nielsenb:fedora.im (9)
* @pboy:fedora.im (6)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (3)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
* @kparal:matrix.org (1)
* @tflink:fedora.im (1)
* @nhanlon:beeper.com (1)
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Fedora QA
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1 month, 3 weeks
2024-03-18 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora 40 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson
# F40 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2024-03-18
# Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC
# Location:
https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[elemen...
Hi folks! It's time for another blocker review meeting. We have 1
proposed freeze exception for Beta, and 10 proposed blockers for Final.
As a reminder, clocks went forward in North America last week, so the
meeting is an hour earlier in UTC than it was before. If you have
changed your clocks forward recently the meeting will be at the same
local time as before, it not it will be earlier.
Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time
in your local time:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+40+Block...
The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web
client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a
dedicated client of your choosing.
If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .
Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If
you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links
labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions.
Those links take you to tickets where you can vote.
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how
exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the
meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs
where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS
MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!**
We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the
wiki [0].
For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process,
check out these links:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Have a good day and see you tomorrow!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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Fedora QA
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1 month, 3 weeks
39 to 40 upgrades breaks yelp
by Ian Laurie
After upgrade to Fedora 40, applications in Xfce that use yelp for help
(GParted, Atril etc) can no longer bring up content.
Running yelp from the command line brings inconsistent results on
different systems that have been upgraded. The thing they have in
common is yelp has no visible content.
adric$ yelp
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (i915) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (i915) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
DRI3 not available
failed to load driver: zink
Failed to get GBM device
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
adric$
Another system:
fc40$ yelp
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
fc40$
** (WebKitWebProcess:2852): ERROR **: 15:13:40.224: WebProcess didn't
exit as expected after the UI process connection was closed
fc40$
Yelp runs OK in a freshly installed Xfce Fedora 40, so this appears to
be some kind of update stuff-up.
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Ian Laurie
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TZ: Australia/Sydney
1 month, 3 weeks
Self-introduction: Jeff BuCher
by Jeffrey Bucher
Hey Y'all,
my name is Jeff BuCher (jeffiscow) I'm 32 from NE Ohio USA. I've always
had an interest in Linux and wanted to go to college for something in
the tech field. Well, I ended up becoming a machinist but after burn out
and being laid off in the past year. I decided to go back to school for
software engineering. I actually start April 1st.
I just joined the Fedora community and so far from what I've seen
everyone's great! I feel QA would be a great start in my journey. Seems
like a space I can learn and get my bearings.
I've used Linux and other FOSS off and on for years but in the past year
or so I've started a deep dive. I'm also in the process of trying to
switch to as much FOSS things as I can. I'm no expert but I feel I have
a solid foundation on Linux mostly Fedora. (Probability because Fedora
has great documentation and has been working well with any old hardware
I put it on!)
I've been dabbling in rust a bit and I'm a pretty big fan of CLI apps
and using the terminal in general. I just think its neat and some people
do pretty cool things with it. I've also been messing around with podman
and OCI containers and I'm a big fan of trying out new features in
different software.
I'm excited to get started and meet yall! If you have any questions just
ask.
@jeffiscow:fedora.im
1 month, 3 weeks
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 40 Candidate Beta-1.4 Available Now!
by Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2024-03-13 at 19:26 +0000, rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org wrote:
> According to [the schedule][1], Fedora 40 Candidate Beta-1.4 is now
> available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
> testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
Sorry for the flood of composes, folks. At this point we still have
open issues to address, including
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269385 , so there's almost
certainly going to be a 1.5 at some point. Testing on pretty much any
of the composes so far is still welcome and useful and you can pretty
much assume if you hit something that looks like a significant bug in
any of them you should report it and propose it as a blocker if
appropriate.
We're going to reassess where we stand later tonight (US time) and then
tomorrow morning (again US time) to decide if there's any realistic
prospect of a go decision on Thursday, and run a new candidate if so.
Otherwise we may hold fire for a bit to let things settle and land some
FEs.
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Fedora QA
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1 month, 3 weeks
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 40 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!
by Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2024-03-13 at 13:24 +0000, rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org wrote:
> According to [the schedule][1], Fedora 40 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now
> available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
> testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
For Deeply Technical Release Engineering Reasons (somebody forgot to
update the right config file), 1.3 is effectively identical to 1.2.
Please test either at your leisure, we'll treat results for both as
interchangeable. There will be a 1.4 soon which should hopefully,
really, really, really be built with kiwi and osbuild.
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Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
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1 month, 3 weeks