Base group not requiring Core group
by Gawain Lynch
After doing a `yum groupinstall Base` I notice that several packages
such as rootfiles are missing. On further investigation it appears
that Core is no longer a required group in Base.
Should I file a bug against comps in bugzilla?
Take care,
Gawain
18 years, 1 month
Re: FC5T2 ready for even a test release?
by Fulko.Hew@sita.aero
Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)redhat.com> on 01/23/2006 10:27 AM added:
>>>
>>> Please explain what is good about the everything installation option.
>>> Dont throw around vague notions.
>>>
>>>
>> It saves me time when selecting packages to install.
>
>Which ones?
All of them. Thats the whole point.
>> It saves me time to not have to install packages individually.
>
>What are you using your system for?. Is it a
>desktop/workstation/server/development system?. Doesnt it fit into one
>of these profiles?
Correct, It doesn't fit. My usage profile (like many others on this
list) is a superset of those categories.
I've found that none of the existing profiles suits my needs.
They each have something missing. My laptop is:
- a desktop,
- a workstation,
- a server
- a development system.
Because I use the 'desktop' of my 'workstation' to 'develop' 'server'
applications.
Actually, given your attitude against the 'all' profile,
you can't really justify having a 'workstation', or server', or
any other arbitrary profile either. Given your rationalization,
they whould all be removed too!
>> I don't have to download packages (via yum or whatever) that have
>> already been downloaded in the isos.
>
>You cant work with them using the current tools provided anyway.
The point is, as has been mentioned a million time already in this thread,
Its a great inconvienience to have to push every button manually.
Especially in light of the fact that this feature:
_used_ to exist,
_was_ being used by a lot of people.
and has been _removed_.
Its not as if we are asking for a 'new' feature,
we just want our 'old' feature back.
> Thats
>what we are trying to fix already. If you dont use yum to keep yourself
>updated installing everything is dangareous since it brings in potential
>security issues with packages you wouldnt even use.
Yup, and I/we are willing to risk that, and deal with the issues.
>> I don't need a kickstart file.
>
>> I don't need to waste space on disk with rpms when I already have the
>> package installed from the initial installation.
>
>You waste disk space by installing packages you wouldnt use. You will to
>keep packages updated. Performance would do down with deamons and other
>session programs. You would be installing tons of world languages which
>you wouldnt be using and so on.
Yup. wasting disk space is _our_ choice, not yours. You select the
packages you want to install, and we get to select the packages _we_ want
to
install.
Performance issues... yup. we will live with it.
world languages... yup, we will live with it.
The bottom line, is its _our_ choice as the installers, not yours.
While I've been reading this thread, there seems to be a whole lot
of people who are addemant about having this bug (where the everything
option
appears to now be missing) fixed.
You have received a lot of feedback and justification for having it
re-instated,
but you seem to be reluctant to accept the fact that:
"PEOPLE WANT IT BACK".
It seems to me that there are more people, with more justifications that
want
it back, than you and your rationalizations.
(Please note that I _am_ trying to be civil about this.)
18 years, 1 month
FC5T2 ready for even a test release?
by Linux Counter (li.counter.org) #386711
I just ftp'd the 5 disks, and put it on my system. Firstly, the
installer sucks. Graphical only displays the top left corner of the
screen, showing none of the useful information. I had to use text,
which was completely garbled. Then, I got to the package selection
screen. I know that they're still working on it, but come on! With no
'everything' option,I got very minimal packages. I decided to use
add/remove packages. This crashed pretty much immediately. I'm stuck
with a pile of minimal non-working crud. FC4T2 was SOOOO much better.
Hope to see you in final.
poly-p man
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http://counter.li.org
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18 years, 1 month
yum leaving multiple versions installed
by Andy Burns
Noticed today that yum (or yumex, I barely use pirut) has been leaving
multiple version of software installed, just to be clear this isn't a
i386 and an x86_64 version of the same package, it is two numerically
different versions.
This has been affected about 50 packages in total, some lib*, lots of
gnome*, some xorg and a few *.noarch, so no particular area.
I have had a few yum updates hang (due to the gcj-dbtool hanging?) so
this might explain it, I've manually tided up the dupes now.
Since I can't say what brought this on and can't repoduce it at the
moment, I'm not planning to bugzilla it, unless anyone else sees it too,
or thinks it is significant enough to warrant a bugzilla?
18 years, 2 months
Fedora Core Test 2 in HP Pavilion dv1000
by tatxe
Hi all.
I'm trying to install FC in Beta 2 but don't recognice my hardware:
Realtek RTL-8139
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller
Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421,
PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller
Intel I/O Controller Hub USB
and many other less important things...
So, I don't wave mouse, sound and network in order to install the
drivers... Is there's somthing I can do about it?
18 years, 2 months
Sound Input
by Thomas J. Baker
In trying ekiga, I discovered that I can't get any program to receive
input from the mic. I'm using emu10k1 with a sound blaster live and I've
tried both ekiga and audacity. I can hear the mic sound on the sound
output but I can't get the sound into either program.
I'm not sure where to file a bug. alsa-lib?
tjb
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18 years, 2 months
PATA support on Promise broke
by Jim Bevier
I have support for PATA drive on a promise controller in FC4. However, in
FC5-T2 on the same machine the drive are not seem. Who broke the code? I
want my PATA drives back.
Jim
18 years, 2 months
Strange Eclipse on FC5 test 2
by Linuxer Wang
Hello, All
I installed FC5 test2, and I tested two versions of eclipse: one is
FC5test2 bundled eclipse, and other is downloaded directly from
eclipse.org. Both behave strange: The first one reports an error when
start, just as the figure error.png, and after starting, the java editor
has no syntax highlight, as in screeshot1.png! And the second one has
syntax highlight, but added many small boxes besides " and ;, as in
screenshot2.png! I tested it under both gij and sun's jdk 1.5, they both
have the same problem.
Anybody the same problem? or give some explainations?
Yours,
18 years, 2 months
Fedora Core 4 Test Update: udev-071-0.FC4.2
by Harald Hoyer
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Fedora Test Update Notification
FEDORA-2006-071
2006-01-31
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Product : Fedora Core 4
Name : udev
Version : 071
Release : 0.FC4.2
Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs
Description :
udev is a implementation of devfs in userspace using sysfs and
/sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly.
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Update Information:
For kernels >= 2.6.15 a newer udev version is necessary.
Please update to this or newer udev versions, before you
boot a new kernel.
This second update also should fix the firmware loading.
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* Tue Jan 31 2006 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 071-0.FC4.2
- removed firmware_helper rule, which conflicts with hotplug firmware helper
* Wed Jan 25 2006 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 071-0.FC4.1
- version 071 for FC-4
* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 069-10
- removed group usb
* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 069-9
- added libsepol-devel BuildReq
- refined persistent rules
* Mon Oct 10 2005 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 069-8
- corrected c&p edd_id rule, symlink for js devices
- added -lsepol
* Thu Oct 6 2005 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 069-7
- added edd_id
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This update can be downloaded from:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/4/
3c64cd0499cd944867b1090edf812b98a7e50330 SRPMS/udev-071-0.FC4.2.src.rpm
14b4fadd56e6e0c723e8c85ed724b7bc4e5e909c ppc/udev-071-0.FC4.2.ppc.rpm
380f5cfcc46d8101c975eb3344854069724f584a ppc/debug/udev-debuginfo-071-0.FC4.2.ppc.rpm
ba65d87db20c881d1a6748a48c51237e27428f97 x86_64/udev-071-0.FC4.2.x86_64.rpm
dba79eab8ccd3c0f540a5e692bfec123f2be74ac x86_64/debug/udev-debuginfo-071-0.FC4.2.x86_64.rpm
48e8fbe49eab988245e13db3eb06072e8022d6b0 i386/udev-071-0.FC4.2.i386.rpm
02423fe08d0fe536baf7e7790b9ea5a0df5676f1 i386/debug/udev-debuginfo-071-0.FC4.2.i386.rpm
This update can be installed with the 'yum' update program. Use 'yum update
package-name' at the command line. For more information, refer to 'Managing
Software with yum,' available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/.
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18 years, 2 months