On 06/04/2014 07:49 PM, Pavel Reichl wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 16:11 +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:58:20AM +0200, Sumit Bose wrote:
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 08:42:21AM +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 04:22:51PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 15:52 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 06/03/2014 08:26 AM, Pavel Reichl wrote:
Hello,

I noticed that if using simple access provider and having
non-existing group or user in access/deny list then access will be
denied and "su: System error" will be printed.

I think it's OK to simply skip non-existing objects on allow_list.

I'm not so sure what to do in case of deny lists. Should we also
just skip them or should we deny the user and print more
appropriate message ("su: Permission denied")?

I agree that skipping (and logging) on allow lists is fine.

For deny lists, it implies that either 1) the admin typoed the
user/group name in the list or 2) that the user/group was removed from
LDAP.

In the first case, we're potentially dealing with privilege leakage
(someone who shouldn't have access has it due to an admin
misconfiguration). In the second case, this is perhaps just normal
operating changes and shouldn't require client modification.

As I type this, I become more certain that the correct approach here
should be to log this with a better message (in both
SSSDBG_CRIT_FAILURE and sss_log) and just proceed as if it didn't exist.

A better message would perhaps be:
"The [user|group] %s does not exist. Possible typo in
simple_[allow|deny]_[users|groups]"
The secure thing to do is to fail, because you do not know with
certainty who should be allowed.
So if an admin typoes a group, noone can log in? That might effectivelly
lock out legitimate access that would subsequently use sudo vi to fix the
typo..
I think we can skip with a log message in the allow case because then
access is still only allowed if another entry matches.

In the deny case I would prefer a reject as well. With this we would
make the allow list more comfortable to use and people might rethink
their deny list usage in environments where groups are often deleted or
renamed.

bye,
Sumit
OK, that sounds like a far compromise. I also hope noone would use the
deny list then. Thanks!
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Hello, 
new patches are attached. 

1st patch:
I amended the debug messages as Stephen suggested.
Non-existing objects are ignored on allow lists, but imply access denied
on deny lists.

2nd patch:
amended mam page - documenting missing objects from deny lists.

3rd patch:
Minor optimization - don't continue matching username with names from
simple_allow_list after successful match.

I have rebased 1st and 3rd patch as there are users who might benefit from the changes immediately.







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