Sorry for the late reply.
Am 02.11.2021 um 14:02 schrieb David Duncan
> I wrote a Fedora Magazine article about using cloud generic image als VM in Fedora
> March 29) and a corresponding guide as part of Server documentation
> But that’s history and current opinion is that the two are completely different
I think Cloud base images are an excellent compliment to Server in this respect.
I agree, it has the potential.
> Well, I’m not a native speaker, maybe some formulations have a
connotation not seen by me.
> Anyway, I (and also Matthew) were accused by some Cloud-WG members that we wanted to
> "kill“ Cloud and/or cloud wg. And those members have explicitly stated there
> be and will be no cooperation at all.
> Maybe "Bluntly failed“ is not exactly a correct phrasing for that. And of
> nothing is irreconcilable in my opinion.
of course not, we are all friends here. I think that time resulted in a significant
amount of churn in the cloud group too, so let's return to finding out how we can make
this work. Let me invite you to the cloud meeting where we can have fun conversations.
I would be very happy if that succeeded.
> Yes, cloud is a different context with different requirements, of
course. Cloud WG creates
> several variants, including a base image as a generic VM image for a generic virtual
> machine (according to the download page description). If we were to cooperate, we
> build this variant or another one to fit Fedora Server perfectly - using Cloud
> knowledge and skills instead of building something ourselves. And in return server
> could do something that would be useful for cloud as well.
I won't lie, I think this is going to basically end up reinventing the cloud edition,
but the activity sounds like it's worthwhile to determine the end result.
I don’t know the architectural details of cloud deliverables. I suppose all the cloud
variants have a common core and differ in an adaptation to different cloud systems. My
idea is, we "just" need to add another customization or modify a suitable
existing customization, e.g. base image. But maybe I'm seeing this as too easy.
Nothing like working together and enjoying the understanding and the
results that come out of that. It's why we do this. If we learn to work together
better, we win.
Yes! Even if we can’t directly use some cloud image, I hope we can build on the work and
experience of the CLoud WG to develop a suitable solution.