HI Peter,

I might be one of the attendees to the above questions. In general, it is a good idea to ask the users, too.

Anyway, from my experience, most users do not respond in a conclusive way to these kind of requests. Instead, having some one-click-surveys or super simple questions has generated way more data.

But, to do the same, one has to come up with opportunities and fitting solution ideas (hypothesis). I think ,you already identified such an opportunity (Fedora on VPS). If there are any proposals regarding a better fit for the same, I would start with proving the hypothesis. This might look like the below:

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As Fedora Server WG, we identified that some of you are using Fedora Server on a VPS like Netcup, Hetzner, Exoscale, etc. We want to improve your experience with the same by creating specialized images. Please let us know:

Q: Which VPS provider do you use on a regular basis?
A: Netcup|Contabo|AWS|Hetzner|other

Q: What is the most cumbersome task for you on a VPS?
A: Initial Setup|Network configuration|Finding the proper image

Q: Is your SSH/Cockpit available via a public IP address?
A: yes|no|only SSH|only Cockpit
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Each of the above question/answer combinations can be a dedicated survey and therefore make it super easy for the user to answer. Each of these questions can be asked via Fedoramagazine, fedora project page, fedora discussions and some might be suitable for the mailing lists. One might even ask somebody who has answered to subscribe to the mailing lists afterwards and share more details.

You can create concrete tasks from the results. For example, providing an easy way to harden the SSH access.

Lastly, since there is already Fedora Cloud images, I am not entirely sure if users will get the difference between these.

Looking forward for the improvements.

Best,
Daniel
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On Mo, Mai 29 2023 at 16:01:36 +0200, Peter Boy <pboy@uni-bremen.de> wrote:
Folks, We decided for ¥Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment´ as our second priority work project. As a first step I consider to send a mail to user list and to "Ask Fedora´ and probably discussion #server-wg to collect experiences with this. Maybe, a mail like:
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Subj.: Who has experience with Fedora as VPS at a hosting provider? Text Body: The Server WG is looking for users who run or have run Fedora, especially Fedora Server, as a virtual private server (VPS/VDS) with hosting providers such as Contabo, netcup VPS, or AWS (Lightsail) and others. We are interested in providing/accepting custom images for installation as well as Fedora offerings by the host provider (Completeness, up-to-dateness). Would you share with us your experiences? How can we make it easier? What were / are you missing in Fedora? Please, reply to this mail or share your knowledge in the server-wg channel https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tags/c/project/7/server-wg
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Any ideas? Comments? Better ideas? Better wording? Objections? What are the best locations to send such a message to? -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast _______________________________________________ server mailing list -- server@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to server-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue