On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 15:21 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 15:11, schrieb Colin Walters:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <johannbg(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Network Manager should go away on server installs it never work properly and
nobody used it
>
> No, you are wrong.
>
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7(.0) will default to NetworkManager, and even if all
resources that are presently on
> NetworkManager were dropped today and focused on networkd, we'd still need a
long ongoing investment in actively
> maintaining it both for the ongoing server case *and* for the client case (GNOME is
deeply invested in NM)
you missed the "on server installs"
so the question is valid in case we talk about *Fedora server*, F21 is delayed because
Fedora.next / Fedora products and so systemd-209 should not be the target for F21 and
even considered for F20 in it's release cycle after systemd-208 is not that bugfree
that RHEL7 defaults to NM is no argumentation for Fedora
systemd-209 simply was not available for RHEL7 target
the same as systemd was not for RHEL6 which uses hence upstart
It's taken, what, 7-8 Fedora cycles, 3-4 years, and one entire RHEL
cycle for NetworkManager to be in a state where RH considers it
acceptable as a default for RHEL 7.
Why are we assuming systemd-networkd shows up and will be good enough
for us overnight? Has anyone who's saying it's The Future and we should
switch to it immediately even run it yet?
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