On 08/10/2016 05:45 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 08/10/2016 01:04 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> The reasons for working with Ansible are compelling:
>
> * Many people are already using it and have tools and processes in place for it.
> * We have access to expertise to enhance and tweak it to our needs (with the
> Red Hat acquisition of Ansible, they are now part of the Fedora community)
> * There already exists a community of playbook writers that can help us get up
> to speed (Ansible Galaxy)
>
> With this in mind, it really feels like the best way forward *right now*.
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Here's a simple question why should administrators be partaking
in this effort
here and contributing their free or paid time vs spending that time contributing
in the associating upstream communities like Ansible Galaxy in which the social
networking amongst like minded people and expertise reside? What will they gain
from that?
I think I did a poor job of explaining this before, but you're suggesting
exactly what I was intending to say when I wrote "There already exists a
community of playbook writers that can help us get up to speed (Ansible
Galaxy)". My vision there was in fact that we would work entirely within the
upstream Ansible Galaxy, taking advantage of others' work in that space. What we
would add on top of that is just curation: we would select playbooks that do
what we want and then maintain them to ensure that they continue to work on
Fedora Server.
So I completely agree with you on this point, Jóhann. I think that was really
the mistake we (I) made before with rolekit: we tried to build something new to
solve the problem and then hoped that we could build a community around it. This
failed as it should ("not invented here" was a bad plan) and now we're
re-evaluating how we can work with existing, established communities instead of
trying to go it our own way.