On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 13:23 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
As I see it they would handle the core ( think comps minimal here )
base since base is something that cannot be shared.
I wonder how many people share this idea, so far it seem to me you are
the only one that thinks we are forking the distribution in 2/3
To be perfectly clear I did not sign up to fork the distribution, and it
is not my understanding of what the 3 products are.
Community driven distribution cannot promise stability of any sort.
Sorry but this is simply untrue, Debian has a recurring release that is
stable and relatively well maintained.
The only thing they can promise is best effort.
And that is fine, nobody is asking for miracles.
>> Quite frankly looking at our whole ecosystem what we need is
>> change to flush out that outdated way's of thinking perhaps that's
>> slowly making us irrelevant and obsolete.
> The trouble is that flushing out that outdated ways of thinking
> automatically implies flushing out all the working software with no
> replacement but well-intentioned ideas.
How do you come to that conclusion?
( I'm talking about those making decisions in Fedora lacking
mindset/ideas and perspective )
Because experience tells us, we've seen already a few generations of
young revolutionaries, and yes sometimes they do achieve something
great, but those are the exceptions, the vast majority of people that
decided to 'start from scratch' ends up badly.
So we may look conservative to you, that is fine by me.
Keeping these two things separated ( Fedora vs FedoraOS ) we wont be
throwing out anything. We simply will be choosing existing bits cleaning
them up, intergrade them better with one another ( if applicable ) and
place them in FedoraOS
I wonder if you have a blind spot or are intentionally ignoring the
magnitude of work because you give it for granted. We can achieve some
success only through the collaboration of a *large* group of people, if
every subgroup decides to redo all the work, we go nowhere, because the
packaging work, the testing etc.. is the *hard* part done in the
distribution. And you are in essence proposing we start from scratch, I
am not on that boat.
Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York