One of the major items we are (or should be) working is tagging the
items that are truly manual and working with FSO to try to figure out
which of these need to be included in the scap-security-guide content
for the RHEL 6 STIG profile. A major related question is how much
manual stuff the Windows STIGs require.
I discussed this on Monday a bit with Shawn.
On 08/07/2012 09:47 PM, Vincent Passaro wrote:
It’s sad to see DISA SCAP taking the community 3 steps forward 4
steps
back.
We now have more manual checks than when we were using the SRR’s and no
standardization or reporting format. These two things combined make it
difficult to use the SCAP since we now have to run the XCCDF / OVAL
checks, go back into the manual checks, figure out what wasn’t
addressed, and then do it manually.
Honestly, it would take more time just do to the full 600 checks
manually then to mess around with the ½ put together content.
*From:*scap-security-guide-bounces@lists.fedorahosted.org
[mailto:scap-security-guide-bounces@lists.fedorahosted.org] *On Behalf
Of *Shawn Wells
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:04 PM
*To:* scap-security-guide(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
*Subject:* Re: disa-stig-rhel5-v1r0.6-xccdf-manual.xml
Shannon hit it on the head. The xccdf-manual includes "procedural"
checks that can not be automated with OVAL. An example of that would be
there are government policies mandating proper backups, however there
isn't a single system flag or command that can verify this. The intent
is to process "procedural checks" is to use OCIL, however that is still
very much evolving.
Note that the disa-stig-* files are included for us to reference while
we build out content for the RHEL6 STIG. As a community we wanted to
ensure that we inherited RHEL5 STIG controls where appropriate, so we
dropped the disa-stig-* files into the RHEL6/references directory to
allow developers to double check things. Those files absolutely should
not be considered official DISA content!
In regards to SSG output things will still be dropped into
rhel6-xccdf-scap-security-guide.xml.
-Shawn
On 8/7/12 4:14 PM, Shannon Mitchell wrote:
I'm just guessing here, but it looks like the manual is meant to be
the full thing. The oval language seems very limited on what it can
do, so it only takes care of a small subset of the full set of
checks. The bad thing is that it looks like the nessus scans that I
have seen run against my systems check for all of them and not just
the 350 in the benchmark.
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Willem Bos <whbos(a)xs4all.nl
<mailto:whbos@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
Hi Shannon,
Thanks. OK, so where do the extra id's come from? I grep-ed the whole
scap-security-guide directory on a id from the *-manual.xml file but -
apart from the file itself - got no results...
Regards,
Willem.
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Shannon Mitchell
<shannon.mitchell(a)merlintechs.com
<mailto:shannon.mitchell@merlintechs.com>> wrote:
> Every gen Id in the benchmark is in the manual. The manual
contains all 350
> plus an extra 219.
>
> On Aug 7, 2012 1:41 PM, "Willem Bos" <whbos(a)xs4all.nl
<mailto:whbos@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>
>> Are you sure disa-stig-rhel5-v1r0.6-xccdf-manual.xml is based on
>> disa-stig-rhel5-v1r0.6-xccdf.xml?
>>
>> The *-manual.xml file contains a lot more <title>GEN*</title>
tags :
>>
>> grep -c '<title>GEN'
U_RedHat_5_V1R0.6_STIG_Benchmark-xccdf.xml
>> 350
>>
>> grep -c '<title>GEN'
>> scap-security-guide/RHEL6/references/disa-stig-rhel5-v1r0.6-xccdf.xml
>> 350
>>
>> grep -c '<title>GEN'
>>
>>
scap-security-guide/RHEL6/references/disa-stig-rhel5-v1r0.6-xccdf-manual.xml
>> 569
>>
>> Maybe I'm missing something obvious but like I said, I'm new to
this stuff
>> :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Willem.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Jeffrey Blank
<blank(a)eclipse.ncsc.mil <mailto:blank@eclipse.ncsc.mil>>
>> wrote:
>> > This should be the same semantically (as the authoritative
version from
>> >
iase.disa.mil <
http://iase.disa.mil>) -- I just ran it through
xmllint (or was it tidy?) to
>> > make it readable in a text editor. (And yes, I should have
documented
>> > this.)
>> >
>> > I really can't remember which, but if you'd like to do a quick
re-run of
>> > each and compare, it would certainly be good for us to document its
>> > congruence with the official version :)
>> >
>> > (Also note that we are not the maintainers of that content for
RHEL 5.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 08/06/2012 03:00 AM, Willem Bos wrote:
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> The GIT repo contains the file
>> >> RHEL6/references/disa-stig-rhel5-v1r0.6-xccdf-manual.xml. This
is not
>> >> part of the zipfile you can download from
>> >>
http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/ncp/repository/checklist/download?id=1059.
>> >>
>> >> I could not find a Makefile target that creates it. What is
its origin?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Willem.
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