Like Trusted computing: power-on-self-test, trusted core, trusted interpreter
measurements?
From: Trevor Vaughan [mailto:tvaughan@onyxpoint.com]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 4:24 PM
To: SCAP Security Guide <scap-security-guide(a)lists.fedorahosted.org>
Subject: Re: FIPS Checker
Well, checking to see if the system is in FIPS mode at the kernel level is pretty easy
(fipscheck).
I would like to know that it's actually the way the vendor intended but I couldn't
determine a good way to do that. Seems like something that the vendors would want to
supply/encourage for those customers that need it.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM Mark Thacker
<mthacker@redhat.com<mailto:mthacker@redhat.com>> wrote:
AHHH.
Well, checking the signatures of the RPMs verses what we posted in the certification would
be a start. (sorry, manual there unless you automate using Ansible or OpenSCAP perhaps)
You can check that the kernel is running in FIPS mode, of course, but I'm not sure
that's all you want to check.
BTW : That process of checking that the system is configured in FIPS does get easier in
the future.....
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:03 PM Trevor Vaughan
<tvaughan@onyxpoint.com<mailto:tvaughan@onyxpoint.com>> wrote:
Actually, Mark, you've kind of nailed it on the head for me.
I would like to be able to know that the system is the way it's *supposed* to be
instead of just kind of doing my best and hoping that something didn't break.
I was hoping that the validated modules area would have an XML file or something that
could be downloaded and processed :-|.
Anyway, it seems like it would be an appropriate addition to the SCAP scans since there is
already the requirement to be enabled being checked for various profiles. I was just
hoping that someone had magically created it.
Thanks,
Trevor
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:59 PM Mark Thacker
<mthacker@redhat.com<mailto:mthacker@redhat.com>> wrote:
We've definitely talked about this and there isn't a clear programmatic means to
achieve this.
Of course, we do log which specific version of the libraries that we build and test
against in our certification report. So, those could be used to compare a running system
against the certification report.
Yes, I also understand that sometimes the desire is to be able to show that CentOS or
Fedora is NOT FIPS certified verses RHEL. Of course, that assumes that the RHEL you are
running on IS actually certified.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:39 PM Gabe Alford
<redhatrises@gmail.com<mailto:redhatrises@gmail.com>> wrote:
Outside of going to
https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/cryptographic-module-validation-program/va...
and clicking `search` with empty search parameters, don't know of anything.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:33 PM Trevor Vaughan
<tvaughan@onyxpoint.com<mailto:tvaughan@onyxpoint.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
Does anyone know of a project that can correlate the running operating system with the
latest information on the FIPS 140 approved products list.
Basically, I'm looking for a command where I can run something like `fipscertified`
and get back a `0` or `1` based on the result of the latest/updated data.
Bonus points, I'd love to be able to point it at apps and have it tell me, but
that's a long shot given the statically compiled wonderland we all seem to be living
in these days.
Thanks,
Trevor
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