#3575: Provide deltaisos for development releases
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Reporter: kparal | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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'''Background:'''
Currently Fedora 13 is in a development, that means Test Composes, Release
Candidates and Final versions of Alpha/Beta/Final milestones are regularly
released. During this period there may be even several releases in one
week. Each release consists of 1x 3.5GB DVD, 6x 700MB CD, 1x 200MB netinst
image and 1x 1GB LiveCD. This is created for i386 and x86_64
architectures.
This is quite large amount of data. Every person interested in occasional
or regular testing must download substantial part of this release. That
makes certain demands on user's internet connection and also !RelEng
infrastructure (internet bandwidth, I/O).
'''Proposal:'''
Release Engineering team will create a deltaiso file for every release of
current Fedora development series. This deltaiso file will contain
differences between that particular release and a previous release. That
means deltaisos will be created in this fashion:
* Fedora 13 Alpha TC1 -> Fedora 13 Alpha TC2
* Fedora 13 Alpha TC2 -> Fedora 13 Alpha RC1
* Fedora 13 Alpha RC1 -> Fedora 13 Alpha
* Fedora 13 Alpha -> Fedora 13 Beta TC1
* Fedora 13 Beta TC1 -> Fedora 13 Beta RC1
* Fedora 13 Beta RC1 -> Fedora 13 Beta RC2
* Fedora 13 Beta RC2 -> Fedora 13 Beta
* Fedora 13 Beta -> Fedora 13 (Final) TC1
* Fedora 13 (Final) TC1 -> Fedora 13 (Final) RC1
* Fedora 13 (Final) RC1 -> Fedora 13 (Final) RC2
* Fedora 13 (Final) RC2 -> Fedora 13 (Final)
Because deltaisos are useful typically for media that consists
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Delta_ISOs mainly of RPM files] this
process would involve mainly DVD image and would not involve LiveCD. For
other media (CD, netinst) the decision is still to be made. Deltaisos for
DVDs are [http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ typically around
100MB].
Deltaisos will be stored in a single directory (e.g. deltaisos/ in
[http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/ /pub/alt/stage]), so it is
easy to convert any older ISO the user currently has into a new one, even
several releases forward. These deltaisos will be stored for the period of
the development release - beginning with Fxx Alpha TC and ending with Fxx
Final (with a small extra time after the final release to allow people to
upgrade their ISOs to the final release).
The deltaiso creation process may be easily automated and
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Delta_ISOs is described on our wiki]. No
additional human interaction should be needed.
'''Rationale:'''
The main reason for this proposal is to enable people with slower internet
connection to participate in installation testing. This often involves not
only developing countries, but also highly-developed countries
[http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-March/133326.html
like the USA]. I believe that although some more people would be
interested in doing installation testing, it is currently too expensive
for them from download time and bandwidth perspective.
Quite interestingly this also includes me as a Red Hat employee. While it
is my job to perform installation testing regularly, our office does not
have internet line thick enough such that I could afford downloading DVD-
sized images several times a week. Performing regular nightly mirroring is
not an option when new releases may be pushed even daily.
Up till now Andre Robatino (CCed) has been performing the repetitive task
of downloading every development release for every architecture, creating
deltaisos and publishing them [http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ as
torrents] (because he doesn't have any publicly available storage). Our
evidence shows that these torrents are used, which means they are useful
for people (and his work is invaluable for me personally). QA has started
to exploit his work officially
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_13_Beta_RC3_Install on
every installation testing page].
The problem is that Andre is usually the only seeder, so the download
speed is really slow and there are connection problems sometimes, so
people often
[http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089110.html
complain about it]. Second problem is that those deltaisos are published
with a noticeable delay (Andre has to detect new release, download, build,
upload and announce). Overall this a huge waste of Andre's time and
energy. A defined and automated process from !RelEng side would simplify
all of this and improve the experience for our users a lot.
Another benefit would be lowered IO/bandwidth load on Fedora
infrastructure.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3575>
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#3996: 1 Package missing from mirrors
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Reporter: limb | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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ailurus-10.07.8-2.fc13 was announced 8/10/2010, but as of 8/23 is not
present.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3996>
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#3910: Write a script that will tagbuildBypass all inherited builds of a tag
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Reporter: jkeating | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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This will make a tag self standing so that we can kill inheritance.
Should use multicall and bypass to save builder time.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3910>
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#3838: File F-14 rel-eng ISO tickets early
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Reporter: jlaska | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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Greetings, during the
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective#Release_Engineeriā¦
Fedora 13 QA retrospective], it was identified that the tickets used to
track QA ISO drops were tremendously useful, but often not created ahead
of time. This ticket is intended to trac any changes or recommendations
to improve the situation. I'm not sure if you'd like to create all F-14
rel-eng tickets ahead of time, or establish some other process.
The hope is that we could collaborate on these tasks ahead of time and
avoid filing tickets that would only be CLOSED DUPLICATE.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3838>
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#3763: Scan comps for dead packages
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Reporter: jkeating | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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Often maintainers forget to remove packages from comps when they get
retired. We should check periodically for this situation and alert
releng.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3763>
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#3507: Secondary arche only packages need to be unblocked in primary arch koji
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Reporter: ausil | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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Blocking secondary arch only packages causes two issues
1) they do not get branched at mass branch time
2) they get blocked in secondary arches when they sync blocked packages
I recommend that we unblock them on the primary arches.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3507>
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Release Engineering for the Fedora Project
#4233: Ratify Fedora 15 Schedule
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Reporter: poelstra | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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Starting the Fedora 15 schedule discussion.
This schedule follows the same methodology we used for Fedora 14 and 13.
It worked very well in Fedora 14 and I recommend that we continue with it
unless there are good reasons to make changes.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/15/Schedulehttp://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-releng-tasks.html
I'm also getting confirmation from QA as to whether they'd like to
continue with this schedule approach as well. https://fedorahosted.org
/fedora-qa/ticket/147
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4233>
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#4238: Override tag reQUest for ruby-gnome2 0.90.5 related
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Reporter: mtasaka | Owner: rel-eng(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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Hello.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
I am going to update ruby-gnome related packaged to 0.90.5. This requires
the
following pkgs to be in buildroot. Please make these pkg tagged as
override,
thank you.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
rubygem-cairo-1.10.0-3.fc14[[BR]]
rubygem-glib2-0.90.5-3.fc14[[BR]]
[[BR]]
rubygem-cairo-1.10.0-3.fc13[[BR]]
rubygem-glib2-0.90.5-3.fc13
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4238>
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