ppc January 2005

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Xautoconfig how to install?
by Soetji & Julie 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

On my iBook G3 500mhz (white), during installation or after reboot, the graphics doesn't come out properly. It is mostly black. While starting up anaconda says: probing for monitor type: unknown monitor I would like to try Xautoconfig. My iBook is not on a network. I can burn the rpm on a CD. Can anyone tell me how I can install that on my iBook? I am new to linux. Thanks, Soetji

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ibook g3 sleep
by Chad J McQuinn 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

Hi guys, I've just gotten FC3 installed on an original ibook (G3 @ 300MHz). It's actually working quite well. The system is primarily a stock install from the ISO images. I want to get sleep working, and had no idea how to do so, since I haven't installed Linux on a Mac since about 1999. I did some searching and it seems that sleep is fully supported on the G3 ibooks. What I didn't see is how to achieve it. I eventually caught wind of the pmud daemon, but couldn't find it anywhere for FC3. In fact the only thing I could find was the RPM at ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/people/dwmw2/fc2-mac/RPMS/ It's for FC2, but I figured I would give it a shot. It works, mostly. Closing the lid does put the machine to sleep, however 1) If I'm in X11 when I close the lid, the machine sleeps, the HD powers down, and the light throbs, but the screen stays *turned on* with a text console (displaying messages about what has been shut down for sleep). 2) If I'm in runlevel 3 when I close the lid, the machine sleeps find and the display turns off as well. I can't check what happens in runlevel 5 when I close the lid while on a virtual console because I can't figure out the magic sequence of control-option-Fn-F1 to press. I wonder if this is a kernel issue or a pmud issue? Should I be looking for a newer version of either? The pmud I have is pmud-0.10-1.1 and I have tried with two different kernels: 2.6.9-1.667 (stock install) and 2.6.9-1.715_FC3.dwmw2 I've got some other nagging issues, but I will send those in a separate message. Any help with this one is appreciated! Thanks, -Chad

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Fedora PPC things...
by Colin Charles 29 Jan '05

29 Jan '05

CC'ing fedora-devel-list because there are some things that need to be sorted for a possible FC-4/ppc _release_ Now, a list of known issues: 0. this boot.iso + nfs installation system has to go away - so we need to give anaconda love 1. out of the box video detection - system-config-display needs to be hacked on to recognise all the common Mac hardware bits out there. We can't be pushing Xautoconfig or something similar... but we can lean on it for inspiration if need be 2. anaconda and partitioning - auto partitioning possibly still fails (I don't think the Apple Bootstrap partition gets created); running yabootconfig automatically after installation, with an appropriate initrd and so on needs to happen (we can't depend on users breaking out into a shell) 3. sound is still relatively broken - dmasound_pmac tends to work, but is not the default config. system-config-soundcard definitely needs some work to make it play well with the Macs 4. power management - we need either pmud or pbbuttonsd. The latter has received no love from most fedora/ppc users, so pmud seems to be the winner, I'd guess. We need this included in Core (building only for ppc, and possibly later ppc64). We know yellow dog add some nice patches for disabling the touchpad in pmud - I guess the package maintainer can be free to include such patches at will if need be 5. updates - we can't have david woodhouse (dwmw2) grabbing packages from the RH build system and having to host them at ftp.linux.org.uk - we need a better mechanism. i.e. the normal way package updates go out, can the ppc and ppc64 packages go out with them too? This might involve some policy change at Red Hat, so can someone in the know, speak up? 6. back to the topic of power management; there are some patches out there that help G4 iBooks and newer powerbooks sleep (and wake up). They're not in the upstream kernel.org kernel, but with good benh approval (!), we might consider patching the kernel to make it more useful. dwmw2 currently builds kernels with these patches enabled 7. we'll be upfront about modems and Airport Extreme probably never working for free. Modems have drivers at linuxant (though they still might be flaky with our stack size in the kernel), but the Airport Extreme stuff is probably a no go (not yet at least) 8. 64-bit support. I personally don't have a G5 or anything ppc64, but I know that dwmw2 has one sitting at work, as probably does nasrat. We need more 64-bit testing, and making sure that anaconda boots on them too (if not we need more anaconda hacking). There have been reports that things were (or are still) broken on a 64-bit arch 9. PegasosPPC (Genesi) makers of PPC boards have thought of getting FC4/ppc to work on their machines. I'll be taking a look at this, though does anyone else have such machines around? 10. spanking MiniMac support? I guess this is a list of outstanding issues that we need to fix before Fedora Core 4 gets a PPC release. If I missed anything glaring, do add on the the thread Otherwise, lets get some C and Python hackers hacking on the packages above, and making things "just work" for FC/ppc. PPC specific discussion can take place at fedora-ppc(a)lists.infradead.org -- Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

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How to make the Apple Boostrap partition the first one?
by Soetji Anto 29 Jan '05

29 Jan '05

I tried to install Fedore Core 3 on my iBook G3 and followed the instructions at: http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html When I got to #10 "... The Apple Bootstrap partition is of size 1MB only - make sure its the first partition, even before your OS X partition(s)", I could not figure out how to make the Apple Bootstrap the first partition in Disk Druid (I ran 'linux text'). I have already OS X installed following instruction #3 and it took the first partition. Thanks for your help. Soetji

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Re: Fedora PPC things...
by Colin Charles 29 Jan '05

29 Jan '05

On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 13:28 +0100, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > > 3. sound is still relatively broken > > No problems so far on my mac. The microphone does not work. Okay, will have to verify this later. Is it just arecord thats possibly broken though? > > 10. spanking MiniMac support? > > Isn't that just an iBook in a different case? No, I don't think so. We'll see > 11. We need a working kernel. The last one working for me is 2.6.9-1.667. > Later kernels have trouble with ptrace, or do not exist at all. Use dwmw2's kernels, and rawhide should have ppc32 again > 12. Firewire detection does not work, at least on my iBook. Firewire itself > works when you manually load the driver. > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=140753) Funny, worked on my iBook g3 without issue. I'll test this in a week and get back to you > Note: all hardware notes above are from a 500MHz iBook2. iBook 2.2, 800MHz BTW, please cc fedora-ppc list (it accepts postings from everyone, iirc) -- Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

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Re: Fedora PPC things...
by Colin Charles 29 Jan '05

29 Jan '05

On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 13:36 +0100, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > > On the positive side, the latest Xorg from rawhide has magically > enabled > > DRI on my iBook (xorg-x11-6.8.1.902-4). 3D is slow (rage128), but > > definitely faster than software rendering :) > > bzflag works, celestia works, neverball works, tuxracer crashes and > burns :) File a bug, under tuxracer, report that your r128 breaks it (actually, maybe file a bug under xorg), and make sure the arch is powerpc -- Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

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rpm.livna.org & PPC
by Michael A. Peters 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Are there any plans for a PPC maintainer or three for the rpm.livna.org packages for Fedora Core 4? Rumor has it that Fedora and Fedora Extras will release for PPC at the same time for Fedora Core 4. I maintain a small yum repository for FC3 that depends upon both Fedora Extras (well, pre-extras) and rpm.livna.org to share what I use that they don't (currently) offer. < http://mpeters.us/yum/ > I don't currently have a _working_ PPC but PPC is where I got my start in Linux (MKLinux DR3 --> LinuxPPC --> YDL) but I am still quite fond of the PPC platform, and am probably going to get a mini (in fact, I'd like to get two) at or near the release of FC4. I would like to build some of my packages for 32-bit PPC, but the number I can would be limited by whether or not there is a PPC livna maintainer.

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New Bootable ISO's
by felix 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Are there any new ISO's that don't require the smaller boot.iso yet?

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Re: Fedora PPC things...
by Colin Charles 27 Jan '05

27 Jan '05

On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 18:44 +1000, Wade Mealing wrote: adding list cc > > But yes, MOL in Extras/ppc might be nice (don't think we need it in > > Core, but hey, its okay with me) > > > I had to hack sheep.c up, as the kernel deals with ethernet packets > slightly differently. If i get a chance, i'll rebuild it against my > 2.6.10 ( can we get this in download.fedora.redhat ?) this week.. Probably. Whatever is latest in FC-3 will be fine. > I have RHGB working on my ibook.. This only worked after i configured > my graphics card though. I dont think i did anything special. Okay, I haven't tried in a while... -- Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

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Creating a ramdisk for 32bit PPC (using FC3/RHEL4beta2's ramdisk?)
by Patrick 26 Jan '05

26 Jan '05

Hi all, Accidentally stumbled on this list and immediately subscribed. The last few weeks there have been some folks trying to get FC3 and RHEL4beta2 PPC to run on RS6000 boxes with 32 bit PPC cpu's like my 43p-150. With help from the guys on #fedora-ppc I have succeeded in crosscompiling a CHRP PPC 2.6.9 kernel on my i686 FC3 box with crosstool and actually netbooted that image on the rs6k. In the end it fails because it can't mount the root device and that's where my question comes in. If I dug up the right info, the kernel can be compiled with the ramdisk included in the image with make zImage.initrd if you put ramdisk.initrd.gz in arch/ppc/boot/images. This would allow me to completely netboot the kernel. So I need a ramdisk. Did more digging, read about making ramdisks and looked at the ramdisk in RHEL4beta2. Reinventing the wheel seems silly so if possible I would like to reuse the ramdisk from RHEL4beta2 (or FC3) where possible. But, the modules included in that ramdisk are 64bit and will never work on my 32bit box. So my question is if anyone knows how I can get my 32bit 2.6.9 modules into RHEL4beta2's or another fresh ramdisk. Looking at the files in the modules directory in the ramdisk of RHEL4beta2: * pcitable - part of hwdata so keep it? * pci.ids - part of hwdata so keep it? * modules.usbmap - no idea how to generate that. keep it? * modules.pcimap - no idea how to generate that. keep it? * modules.dep - how to generate it when the modules are not installed? * modules.cgz - do I need to follow the dir structure in the archive? * module-info - part of anaconda-runtime so keep it? Many thanks for any suggestions or better solutions. Regards, Patrick

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