Well, I wrote to openshift support about this since the registration
e-mail is not going anywhere so the mail server seems to be offline or
stuck. We have to wait since they don't provide the root access to the
box so I don't have it to investigate myself.
The naming change is not a bad thing provided the fact the docs and
domain name won't change as the domain has been registered for 5 years
on my own expenses.
Considering the PVC name it's not that good since user may think that
this is something chemistry-related (because of mentioned Poly-Vinyl
Chloride materials). The change is not that huge, that's correct but it
really may be good to change the naming.
So considering the naming I'm appending my comments per each mentioned:
php-virt-control - current name
PVC - may remind users of chemistry-related stuff because of
poly-vinyl chloride
VMC - pretty similar name to VNC, may be confusing as well
web-virt-control - well, originally my intention was to rename to this
one if so however I think we need to figure out something better
virt-control - dtto
virtigo - honestly, this name is not that bad but we may keep thinking
webvirt - this sounds good however still not the best naming yet
It may be great to have some name like for the mystical character or
ancient legend character that somehow involves the virtual environment
to imply this is about virtual machines. We may need to brainstorm about
this... or maybe something like Matrix (the movie), which is basically
the virtual environment too. But for this we may face the issues not to
confuse this with the matrix (as in mathematical space). We also can't
reuse the names from The Matrix (like Zion as city they live in) to call
it, let's say, Zion-Controller or similar because of the copyright
issues IMHO.
Any ideas about this? The mythical character that's connected somehow
would be really great but I can't recall any good character to remind
user of the virtual, non-real, environment.
Michal
On 03/13/2012 08:41 PM, Sean wrote:
"php-vm" is kind of snappy also.
_S
On 03/13/2012 12:33 PM, Sean wrote:
> The name is not a very big issue to me, but I would suggest considering a
> change. The domain name "php-virt-control" and product / documentation
don't
> really have to change, but I would suggest the final product release might go by
> a shorter moniker such as "PVC" so as to be more memorable and easier.
This
> would only affect the RPM, debian, and / or tar-ball releases (pvc.rpm, pvc.tar,
> etc). Beyond that you could maybe change the base URL of the entry point and if
> you really wanted to, also the UI.
>
> Using "PVC" has a few advantages; Other than being short and quick, it does
not
> require the project name to change (because it is simply an abbreviation), it
> may remind the user of "Poly Vinyl Chloride" (a material used in
quick-assembly
> plumbing and high fashion, among others), and it doesn't partly rhyme with
> "birth control" (an unfortunate coincidence). Even the source repository
does
> not need to be renamed.
>
> Again, I don't think it's a huge issue. The bigger the change the more things
it
> affects. I think "VMC" is too close to "VNC".
"web-virt-control" is a pretty
> simple difference. "webvirt" sounds kind of cool as one word. Anything with
more
> than one hyphen seems troublesome, and anything with "virt-control" has
that
> rhyming problem. "virtigo"? "php-machine"?
>
> I just hit
bugzilla.php-virt-control.org 3 times. "Request for new user account
> 'sean.channel(a)pacbell.net' submitted" --No love. Network / firewall
problem?
> Default configuration?
> _S
>
> On 03/13/2012 05:43 AM, Michal Novotny wrote:
>> Well, the bugzilla on the link (
http://bugzilla.php-virt-control.org
>> )I provided should send you the link ASAP. I've seen the database
>> however I didn't see you registration here. Please register to this
>> bugzilla first.
>>
>> About the package naming I've never thought about it however the project
>> is already having a name and a domain is registered. If applicable we
>> should think of better naming for not just this project but all
>> virtualization-related projects that are not officially supported, like
>> virt-backup and maybe others that could be useful (if we find any).
>>
>> Or do you mean renaming the debian package to pvc as php-virt-control ?
>> Theoretically we could think about the name of
>> virtual-machine-controller (VMC) since the php-virt-control was badly
>> chosen. There's no need to specify the platform it uses in here (PHP in
>> this case). It could be Virtual Machine Controller, or Web-virt-control,
>> instead. Any name suggestions?
>>
>> For bugzilla on php-virt-control there are 2 namespaces as this is
>> intended to be a personal bugzilla as well so please look to the
>> "Virtualization related" namespace/classification.
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> On 03/12/2012 11:01 PM, Sean wrote:
>>> I haven't received confirmation emails from either bugzilla or openshift
yet
>>> (registered for both), so I'll toss this one out there:
>>>
>>> I noticed a comment about the name on the package review and I did find it
>>> confusing at first, plus every time I read it I hear "birth
control".
>>>
>>> Rather than change the whole project& site name, would it be worth
considering
>>> going with simply "pvc" for the package distribution?
>>>
>>> _S
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [php-virt-control] vs. "ovirt"
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:39:23 +0100
>>> From: Michal Novotny<minovotn(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: Virtual machine control for
PHP<php-virt-control(a)lists.fedorahosted.org>
>>> CC: Sean<sean.channel(a)pacbell.net>
>>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>> I've managed to install bugzilla to OpenShift. It's accessible here:
>>>
>>>
http://bugzilla.php-virt-control.org/
>>>
>>> Please feel free to register, file bugs and write/post patches :-)
>>>
>>> Any help is highly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Michal
>>>
>>>
>>
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