Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Enjoy,
- Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:51:59PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Would love to, but it doesn't seem to boot for me, it just shows the child logo and doesn't move on :(
Rui
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:24:29AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:51:59PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Would love to, but it doesn't seem to boot for me, it just shows the child logo and doesn't move on :(
Using and SD cart and the "bootable" image with
zcat bla.gz | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1m
Either with the SD in the built-in slot or in the USB por with a card reader, the result is the same :(
Rui
Hi Rui,
Would love to, but it doesn't seem to boot for me, it just shows the child logo and doesn't move on :(
* try holding down the check game-key as you turn on the XO * try upgrading to the newest OFW
Does either help?
- Chris.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Chris Ball cjb@laptop.org wrote:
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to target the latest SoaS on XO hw. Is this newer? Older? More XO-specific fixes? Less?
cheers,
m
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to target the latest SoaS on XO hw. Is this newer? Older? More XO-specific fixes? Less?
I'm not sure what release of Fedora SoaS is based on. From the Fedora perspective this is the latest beta release, essentially a snapshot of rawhide on the way to F11. It has all the latest Sugar stuff in it but has no specific XO fixes in it. EG it doesn't have the XO specific kernel patches in it which I assume SoaS does. Its part of the process of getting all the XO/OLPC changes upstream into Fedora so that there isn't extra maintenance required by the OLPC/sugar/XO teams and they can concentrate on the more important things like sugar development rather than having to build packages for gstreamer or xulrunner or whatever.
It would be great to get some testing done on it if possible to see what the issues are with it. I've been meaning on taking a look at SoaS to see what the differences are between that and rawhide but I just haven't had the time to do so yet.
Peter
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:13:36PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to target the latest SoaS on XO hw. Is this newer? Older? More XO-specific fixes? Less?
I'm not sure what release of Fedora SoaS is based on.
F11/rawhide.
From the Fedora perspective this is the latest beta release
Is this statement meant to be equivalent to "this is the latest F11 beta"?
It has all the latest Sugar stuff in it but has no specific XO fixes in it. EG it doesn't have the XO specific kernel patches in it which I assume SoaS does.
Soas does not, nor does http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/ . I can't speak for the intentions of either "distro"s in the future.
Please recall Soas is targeted at more than XOs...I would assume that the OLPC distro is more likely to include XO-specific bits than the Soas distro. But now we're both assuming, rather than asking.
It would be great to get some testing done on it if possible to see what the issues are with it. I've been meaning on taking a look at SoaS to see what the differences are between that and rawhide but I just haven't had the time to do so yet.
They're essentially the same right now apart from the choice of desktop environment.
Peter
Martin
From the Fedora perspective this is the latest beta release
Is this statement meant to be equivalent to "this is the latest F11 beta"?
Now I read it, a fairly pointless statement.... should have coffee _BEFORE_ replying to emails in the morning.
It has all the latest Sugar stuff in it but has no specific XO fixes in it. EG it doesn't have the XO specific kernel patches in it which I assume SoaS does.
Soas does not, nor does http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/ . I can't speak for the intentions of either "distro"s in the future.
Please recall Soas is targeted at more than XOs...I would assume that the OLPC distro is more likely to include XO-specific bits than the Soas distro. But now we're both assuming, rather than asking.
It would be great to get some testing done on it if possible to see what the issues are with it. I've been meaning on taking a look at SoaS to see what the differences are between that and rawhide but I just haven't had the time to do so yet.
They're essentially the same right now apart from the choice of desktop environment.
Yea, it seems that its basically very similar.
Peter
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:05:39PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Chris Ball cjb@laptop.org wrote:
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
I am trying to organise a test effort on Thursday, and was planning to
I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now). Just a personal opinion.
Is this newer? Older?
Only if rawhide / beta has changed
More XO-specific fixes? Less?
The same.
cheers, m
Martin
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Martin Dengler martin@martindengler.com wrote:
I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now). Just a personal opinion.
Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff that is known to be 'broken' on the XO?
IIRC, the NM there can't handle the mesh devices, so no "under a tree" automagic mesh or ad-hoc networking is present. So not expecting that to work. Anything else? Sound? Sleep? Screen rotate? 'Game keys'?
cheers,
m
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Martin Dengler martin@martindengler.com wrote:
I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now). Just a personal opinion.
Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff that is known to be 'broken' on the XO?
IIRC, the NM there can't handle the mesh devices, so no "under a tree" automagic mesh or ad-hoc networking is present. So not expecting that to work.
Indeed, mesh doesn't work.
Sound?
Not sure (I thought it worked but haven't checked recently).
Sleep?
Nope
Screen rotate?
Nope
'Game keys'?
Nope
Other things OTTOMH:
- Most / all of the XO-specific keys don't work. The keymap isn't set to an OLPC one at boot (these are two seperate problems).
- DCON driver isn't available - so forget about coming out of pretty boot (use the check key when starting to avoid pretty boot) - or changing the backlight level, etc.)
- /ofw doesn't exist
- network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
- some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why, could be #307 again)
cheers, m
Martin
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why, could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved. Awesome.
cheers, m
Martin
Martin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martin Dengler martin@martindengler.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
- network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
- some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved. Awesome.
From rawhide, or with the custom kernel that was mentioned?
Peter
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:57:14AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martin Dengler martin@martindengler.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
- network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
- some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why,
could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved. Awesome.
From rawhide, or with the custom kernel that was mentioned?
Rawhide. Though the custom kernel shouldn't directly affect those two problems IIUC.
Peter
Martin
Martin Dengler wrote:
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote:
network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 )
some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why, could be #307 again)
I just rebuilt a Soas2-based image and these two issues are solved. Awesome.
I fixed another WPA related thing lately #575 - could be that as well. Happy it is working now.
Cheers, Simon
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Hi all,
In the repos (the one at sugarlabs.org and dev.laptop.org) is Version 7 of 'help' available but there is a new image (Version 10) mentioned on the wiki page [1].
Where is the new source? Or is this just a mistake?
BTW, does anybody know where the source tarball of help could be found?
Kind regards,
Fabian
[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity) - -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F
Fedora always leads and never follows.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Fabian Affolter fab@fedoraproject.org wrote:
In the repos (the one at sugarlabs.org and dev.laptop.org) is Version 7 of 'help' available but there is a new image (Version 10) mentioned on the wiki page [1].
Where is the new source? Or is this just a mistake? BTW, does anybody know where the source tarball of help could be found?
That page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity) links to a newer v10 version of the .xo file that OLPC's Sj uploaded on 2008-09-26. You can install it on an XO, or unzip it. As that page indicates, the content comes from http://en.flossmanuals.net/XO and http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar , somehow someone turns these into a set of HTML pages and creates the Help activity (and you would hope, also updates http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual ).
What might be happening is people are updating the *content* on Flossmanuals and somehow making new .xo bundles, but not always updating git. Or vice-versa (thrice-versa?). It looks like http://dev.laptop.org/git/activities/help and http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/help have changes up to v9 but not v10.
To add to potential confusion, I think people have started updating the content on Flossmanuals to reflect Sugar 0.84, but there's no obvious "applies to release xx" in the pages.
The people who really know might be on library@lists.laptop.org
-- =S Page
Brian Jordan(CCed) has been the help maintainer. He should be able to shed more light on the situation.
david
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, S Page skierpage@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Fabian Affolter fab@fedoraproject.org wrote:
In the repos (the one at sugarlabs.org and dev.laptop.org) is Version 7 of 'help' available but there is a new image (Version 10) mentioned on the wiki page [1].
Where is the new source? Or is this just a mistake? BTW, does anybody know where the source tarball of help could be found?
That page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help_(activity) links to a newer v10 version of the .xo file that OLPC's Sj uploaded on 2008-09-26. You can install it on an XO, or unzip it. As that page indicates, the content comes from http://en.flossmanuals.net/XO and http://en.flossmanuals.net/Sugar , somehow someone turns these into a set of HTML pages and creates the Help activity (and you would hope, also updates http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual ).
What might be happening is people are updating the *content* on Flossmanuals and somehow making new .xo bundles, but not always updating git. Or vice-versa (thrice-versa?). It looks like http://dev.laptop.org/git/activities/help and http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/help have changes up to v9 but not v10.
To add to potential confusion, I think people have started updating the content on Flossmanuals to reflect Sugar 0.84, but there's no obvious "applies to release xx" in the pages.
The people who really know might be on library@lists.laptop.org
-- =S Page
Fedora-olpc-list mailing list Fedora-olpc-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langhoff@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff that is known to be 'broken' on the XO?
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO#Known_issues , edit away.It also links to the Sugar Labs Testing pages for SoaS images.
-- =S Page
Hi Martin,
How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?
They're very similar, indeed. The rawhide-xo builds have both GNOME and Sugar for you to choose between, and we can imagine putting an OLPC kernel on to the XO builds to get better support, but otherwise they're pretty identical.
- Chris.
Hi Chris,
Out of interest does OFW support ext4? I've tried today to get a SD card to boot using your image with no luck, but shoved a usb key in that has the standard F11 beta on it and the kernel booted straight up but got no further.
Peter
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Chris Ball cjb@laptop.org wrote:
Hi,
Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
Enjoy,
- Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
-- Chris Ball cjb@laptop.org
Fedora-olpc-list mailing list Fedora-olpc-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 08:18:50PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Out of interest does OFW support ext4? I've tried today to get a SD card to boot using your image with no luck, but shoved a usb key in that has the standard F11 beta on it and the kernel booted straight up but got no further.
If you got to the kernel and didn't see any initrd errors then OFW's job (finding the kernel and initrd) was done. I've noticed that if OFW can load the kernel but not the initrd it's hard to see that error - the failure message gets cleared away by the kernel loading messages.
Peter
Martin