Sounds right to me. Thanks, Troy. 



On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:43 PM Troy Dawson <tdawson@redhat.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 8:58 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:13 AM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:06 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This part, I slightly disagree with. There's no strong reason to remove the existing packages from their system (and doing so could potentially break third-party software relying on it). It's enough to not provide a newer version. (Also the metadata size cost associated with adding hundreds of nodejs-* packages to the Obsoletes: list is non-trivial).
> > >>
> > > Hmm ... that's what I thought the goal was, to remove as many of the nodejs library packages as possible.
> > > I'm ok changing that goal.
> > > At the very least, we should remove all those nodejs libraries that do not install, nor build.  Unless the packager wants to bundle and fix them.
> >
> >
> > I think you slightly misunderstood. We are *definitely* retiring those
> > packages. So they cannot install them on F34+. I'm saying that we
> > don't want them in fedora-obsolete-packages because there's no strong
> > reason to forcibly remove them from systems that have them installed
> > currently (and adding hundreds of packages to Obsoletes: would grow
> > the repo metadata, which is already painfully large). They'll just
> > bitrot.
>
> Ah, ok, I did misunderstand.  I think I know what you mean now.
>
> How does this sound
>
> * Upgrade/compatibility impact
>     Retired nodejs libraries will have no upgrade or obsoletes.  If they
>     were already installed on the system they will remain there.
>
> Or something more compact like
>
> * Upgrade/compatibility impact
>    None

* Upgrade/compatibility impact
   N/A

Does anyone have anything else before I start on the official
submission process?

Troy
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