From: music-request@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: music Digest, Vol 44, Issue 16 To: music@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:54:50 +0000
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Today's Topics:
- Re: music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the audio spin. (Christopher Antila)
- supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Bernardo Barros)
- Re: [sc-users] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
- Re: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
- Re: supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Bernardo Barros)
- Re: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
- new packages in Fedora updates-testing (2010-07-23) (Orcan Ogetbil)
- Re: music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the audio spin. (David Timms)
- Re: Re: music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the audio spin. (David Timms)
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:40:22 -0400 From: Christopher Antila crantila@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the audio spin. To: music@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: 4C4A1A56.90801@fedoraproject.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
It's good to see more people getting involved!
We have lots of (relatively!) easy ideas, like including recent versions of software. Why don't we start on the difficult stuff by deciding on a target audience? This will help us to determine whether we want to bother with a real-time-enabled kernel, exactly what software to include, and other things.
Here's my proposed target audience, derived mostly from the FP User base page[1], and the other pages in the "About Fedora" series:
Typical User: A home user who wants to accomplish all sorts of everyday tasks with one distribution, including high-quality audio creation tasks, home office tasks, and communications tasks like IM, IRC, and email. This person knows enough that, if given instructions, they would be able to make all of the modifications and installations for themselves - but now they don't have to. The user is already reasonably experienced with using most of the software included with the Audio Creation version of Fedora.
There are two important things here to consider: the user is not a novice computer-user, because this doesn't follow Fedora's goals; the user is making a conscious choice to go with an Audio Creation version, rather than the mainstream version, so it should be considerably different from the mainstream version. It shouldn't be the kind of thing that could be done just as well by spending an hour with PackageKit - it should be significantly different, and sufficient without further modification for all audio creation purposes.
This is my opinion. I hope somebody disagrees, so we can evaluate different options!
Christopher.
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base
On 07/23/2010 05:41 PM, William Blackburn wrote:
hello everyone,
I apologize for my ramblings this morning about the decision on whether or not to use the real time pre-emption patch. If there is anything I can do to help move the spin forward, just let me know. I am more than willing to help. I think one important aspect may be to put the new version of rakarrack on the spin because the version in the repos is a bit outdated and that particular package is moving very fast. There are instructions on how to build the package on the rakarrack website but I am not experienced enough to know how to incorporate that into the spin. Maybe I can talk to one of the devs and ask him his thoughts on the idea. That's all I have for now. Until next time, ciao!
(tertl3)
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:14:03 -0300 From: Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.com Subject: [Fedora-music-list] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 To: Planet CCRMA list planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu, sc-users sc-users@lists.bham.ac.uk, fedora-music-list fedora-music-list@redhat.com Message-ID: AANLkTi=_cLAO8OuukQHs-YLY_S_A7v_=u=cvL0Jz6HWe@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi all!
I'm getting two little troubles here. This is a new computer with a fresh install of Fedora 13, so maybe I did something wrong with installation.
- When I try to do "yum update" I get:
yum update Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing...: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing... Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: planetcore-testing. Please verify its path and try again
Maybe I did something wrong
- I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source. The instalation from
planet-ccrma packages did not work for me (maybe because of the same problem?). The other packages besides sc and pd worked well.
But... I could install supercollider 3.4 from source, no problems. But I'm not finding the right package dependencies for SwingOSC. It asks "java-6-sun" but I don't find this package in the respos. Any hint/shortcut for this?
Thanks!! Bernardo
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:00:33 -0700 From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] [sc-users] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 To: sc-users@lists.bham.ac.uk Cc: Planet CCRMA list planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU, fedora-music-list fedora-music-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1279929633.8633.29.camel@localhost.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 20:14 -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Hi all!
I'm getting two little troubles here. This is a new computer with a fresh install of Fedora 13, so maybe I did something wrong with installation.
- When I try to do "yum update" I get:
yum update Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing...: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing... Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: planetcore-testing. Please verify its path and try again
Maybe I did something wrong
No, you did not, the metadata was missing for that particular repository (but -testing is disabled by default, you should not have hit this unless you enabled it). Anyway, it should be fixed now.
-- Fernando
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:01:01 -0700 From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 To: Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.com Cc: sc-users sc-users@lists.bham.ac.uk, Planet CCRMA list planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU, fedora-music-list fedora-music-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1279929661.8633.30.camel@localhost.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 20:14 -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Maybe I did something wrong
- I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source.
Hmmm, I'm about to release 3.4 for fc13/12. I've been testing and it is fine so far.
The instalation from planet-ccrma packages did not work for me (maybe because of the same problem?). The other packages besides sc and pd worked well.
How did it fail when you tried to install sc and pd? They should install and work out of the box. Do you have any error messages or other information?
-- Fernando
But... I could install supercollider 3.4 from source, no problems. But I'm not finding the right package dependencies for SwingOSC. It asks "java-6-sun" but I don't find this package in the respos. Any hint/shortcut for this?
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:25:26 -0300 From: Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 To: Planet CCRMA list planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu, sc-users sc-users@lists.bham.ac.uk, fedora-music-list fedora-music-list@redhat.com Message-ID: AANLkTi=r22WxRs6Pep_eVCsAFzZ=-7z403ERR42-3khB@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Sorry, the first one was not difficult. Just change disable=0 in etc/yum.repos.d/planetccrma-testing.repo
sorry for the noise.
but still trying swingosc
2010/7/23, Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.com:
Hi all!
I'm getting two little troubles here. This is a new computer with a fresh install of Fedora 13, so maybe I did something wrong with installation.
- When I try to do "yum update" I get:
yum update Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing...: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing... Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: planetcore-testing. Please verify its path and try again
Maybe I did something wrong
- I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source. The instalation from
planet-ccrma packages did not work for me (maybe because of the same problem?). The other packages besides sc and pd worked well.
But... I could install supercollider 3.4 from source, no problems. But I'm not finding the right package dependencies for SwingOSC. It asks "java-6-sun" but I don't find this package in the respos. Any hint/shortcut for this?
Thanks!! Bernardo
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:57:02 -0700 From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on fedora 13 To: Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.com Cc: sc-users sc-users@lists.bham.ac.uk, Planet CCRMA list planetccrma@ccrma.Stanford.EDU, fedora-music-list fedora-music-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1279933022.8633.82.camel@localhost.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 17:01 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 20:14 -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Maybe I did something wrong
- I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source.
Hmmm, I'm about to release 3.4 for fc13/12. I've been testing and it is fine so far.
I just released sc 3.4 packages for fc13/fc12... It is now built natively on x86_64 (woohoo!) but I have not tested that build other than starting sclang in a virtual machine.
In fc12 I have tested with two big applications, in fc13 just lightly to check it does start.
-- Fernando
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:55:44 -0400 From: Orcan Ogetbil oget.fedora@gmail.com Subject: [Fedora-music-list] new packages in Fedora updates-testing (2010-07-23) To: Planet CCRMA list planetccrma@ccrma.stanford.edu, music@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: AANLkTinm1X4D=qRH9keTMsMMk1wicNz+3c6UHtwgsRmB@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi all, We have 1 new package, 2 new updates:
lv2-fil-plugins: new lv2 flitering plugin F-13: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lv2-fil-plugins-2.0-3.fc13
F-12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lv2-fil-plugins-2.0-3.fc12
mscore: bugfix release F-13: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mscore-0.9.6.1-1.fc13
F-12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mscore-0.9.6.1-1.fc12
zynaddsubfx: This one comes with a brand new dssi subpackage: zynaddsubfx-dssi Same synth, but in dssi format.
F-13: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zynaddsubfx-2.4.1-1.fc13
F-12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zynaddsubfx-2.4.1-1.fc12
As usual, you can leave feedback in the above links.
Orcan
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:54:45 +1000 From: David Timms dtimms@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the audio spin. To: music@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: 4C4A9C45.6040806@iinet.net.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 24/07/10 07:41, William Blackburn wrote:
If there is anything I can do to help move the spin forward, just let me know. I am more than willing to help.
Please see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AudioCreationSpinDevelopment
- put yourself in the list of people
- add any tasks you think we need to do to make the spin a reality
- add yourself to any of the tasks
- add / edit comment on the list of packages that should make it into
the spin
- test and leave comments for any audio package announced on this list
I think one important aspect may be to put the new version of rakarrack
AFAICT the current release of 0.5.8 is what is now in Fedora 12,13 and has been in development for a while.
On a side note: general email list etiquette applies here as well:
- don't top post
- only quote / include text that you are actually replying to
(especially not whole list archives of 100kB !). Find the point you want to address and quote just that part.
You might like to set yourself to remove individual, rather than archive mail. This helps everyone else on the list since many people use threaded email readers, that keep all messages that are "reply to" in the same thread.
Cheers, David Timms.
Message: 9
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:54:45 David Timms wrote,
You might like to set yourself to remove individual, rather than archive mail. How do I do this?
Also, I tried to download your torrent and I got an error. A tracker error i believe.
AFAICT the current release of 0.5.8 is what is now in Fedora 12,13 and has been in development for a while The is a version .6 with some updates but that may be too new to add. I am not sure.
Do you plan on adding the RT kernel in the future?
Ciao, William Blackburn
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