Notification time stamped 2023-03-13 17:42:26 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F38-blocker-review
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Meeting started by bcotton at 16:00:59 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (bcotton, 16:01:21)
* Roll Call (adamw, 16:06:02)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:07:05)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:07:23)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:07:28)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:07:32)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:07:36)
* LINK:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:07:40)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:07:43)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:46)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:51)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:53)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:08:00)
* 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:08:33)
* 5 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:08:35)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:08:36)
* 4 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:08:46)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:08:57)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:09:05)
* (2177725) Combo boxes in GTK4 can't be opened (adamw, 16:09:58)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177725 (adamw,
16:09:59)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1091
(adamw, 16:09:59)
* Proposed Blocker, gtk4, VERIFIED (adamw, 16:09:59)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao)
(adamw, 16:10:01)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177725
(frantisekz, 16:12:25)
* AGREED: 2177725 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this would affect basic
functionality of many GTK4 apps, combo boxes are a standard UI
element (adamw, 16:16:53)
* (2176766) Dragging files is Nautilus doesn't work as expected, quick
movements result in a selection box instead (adamw, 16:17:13)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176766 (adamw,
16:17:16)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1085
(adamw, 16:17:23)
* Proposed Blocker, nautilus, NEW (adamw, 16:17:24)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,2,-2) (+catanzaro, +nielsenb,
+geraldosimiao, +bcotton, kparal, sgallagh, -frantisekz, -lruzicka)
(adamw, 16:17:26)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+frantisekz, +sgallagh)
(adamw, 16:17:28)
* AGREED: 2176766 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of the "basic functionality" criterion for nautilus, in
the case of impatient people who like to move the mouse real fast
(adamw, 16:35:43)
* (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 16:35:56)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 (adamw,
16:36:00)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1087
(adamw, 16:36:03)
* Proposed Blocker, shim, POST (adamw, 16:36:07)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+3,0,-3) (+geraldosimiao, +kparal,
+bcotton, -frantisekz, -nielsenb, -sgallagh) (adamw, 16:36:09)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+frantisekz, +nielsenb,
+lruzicka, +sgallagh) (adamw, 16:36:13)
* AGREED: 2113005 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
conditional violation of "All release-blocking images must boot in
their supported configurations" when booting in native UEFI mode on
affected hardware. (adamw, 17:02:23)
* (2177784) Sound volume is sometimes 0% after login (a race condition)
(adamw, 17:02:39)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177784 (adamw,
17:02:42)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1092
(adamw, 17:02:44)
* Proposed Blocker, wireplumber, NEW (adamw, 17:02:47)
* AGREED: 2177784 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - this isn't serious enough to be considered a criteria
violation. The criterion says "The installed system must be able to
play back sound with gstreamer-based applications"; if affected by
this bug you can play sound, you just have to turn the volume up
first. It is bad polish, though, so we grant an FE (adamw,
17:12:19)
* (2177853) Logout/reboot/poweroff timeout leaves the session in a
broken state, doesn't perform the action (adamw, 17:14:14)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177853 (adamw,
17:14:27)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:14:50)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Beta_Release_Criteria#Shutdown,_...
(kparal, 17:16:40)
* AGREED: 2177853 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
conditional violation of "Shutting down [etc]...must work
using...the mechanisms offered (if any) by all release-blocking
desktops" in the case where you wait for the automatic action to
happen after the timeout (adamw, 17:22:33)
* Proposed Final freeze exception issues (adamw, 17:22:47)
* (2176732) delete an album and undo the delete operation makes the
album is not shown in the "Add to album" list (adamw, 17:23:02)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176732 (adamw,
17:23:02)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1083
(adamw, 17:23:03)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-photos, NEW (adamw, 17:23:06)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-5) (-frantisekz, -catanzaro,
-nielsenb, -geraldosimiao, -lruzicka) (adamw, 17:23:08)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+lruzicka) (adamw,
17:23:11)
* AGREED: 2176732 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted
to improve final release polish, so long as the proposed fix does
not present any risk to anything more important (adamw, 17:29:09)
* (2177722) systemd-oomd extremely aggressive in killing non-DE logins
(sshd or console) and any commands running in them (adamw, 17:29:22)
* LINK:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177722 (adamw,
17:29:27)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1090
(adamw, 17:29:30)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, systemd, NEW (adamw, 17:29:35)
* AGREED: 2177722 - punt (delay decision) - it's hard to make any
decision here without some details of any proposed fix. we will
leave this until there's actually a necessary decision to make (i.e.
a proposed fix during the freeze period) (adamw, 17:40:30)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:40:51)
Meeting ended at 17:42:26 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (170)
* kparal (54)
* lruzicka (50)
* geraldosimiao (36)
* bcotton (29)
* frantisekz (21)
* zodbot (17)
* marcdeop[m] (14)
* Eighth_Doctor (13)
* andi89gi (9)
* robatino (5)
* aleasto (4)
* marcdeop (2)
* coremodule (2)
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