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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by eseyman at 19:50:49 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Association Borsalinux-fr (eseyman, 19:51:58)
* Fedora-Fr.org (eseyman, 19:52:49)
* Marketing (eseyman, 19:57:50)
* Documentation (eseyman, 20:05:00)
* Traduction (Nicosss, 20:09:56)
* Projet Fedora (Nicosss, 20:18:27)
* Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Nicosss, 20:22:48)
* JDLL (Nicosss, 20:24:33)
* ACTION: Nicosss poster sur le forum et la ML pour les JDLL
(Nicosss, 20:27:28)
* Discussions Libres (Nicosss, 20:29:44)
Meeting ended at 20:31:01 UTC.
Action Items
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* Nicosss poster sur le forum et la ML pour les JDLL
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* Nicosss poster sur le forum et la ML pour les JDLL
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Notification time stamped 2019-03-04 18:11:18 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F30-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 17:03:30 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 17:03:30)
* coremodule will secret terrialize (adamw, 17:06:06)
* Introduction (adamw, 17:07:42)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 17:07:43)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 17:07:44)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 17:07:44)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 17:07:46)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
17:07:48)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
17:07:50)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:07:52)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:07:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:07:56)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 17:09:49)
* 2 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 17:09:50)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 17:09:54)
* above was for Beta (adamw, 17:10:01)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 17:10:10)
* 1 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 17:10:13)
* we will start with proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 17:10:24)
* (1683197) gdm Fails to load with "nomodeset" (adamw, 17:10:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683197 (adamw,
17:10:32)
* Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 17:10:32)
* AGREED: 1683197 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - for now we accept this as
a violation of the cited criterion, note further testing on bare
metal systems may cause a re-evaluation if the bug turns out not to
happen in some cases (adamw, 17:17:32)
* (1673710) [abrt] virt-manager: gst_caps_set_simple_valist(): python3.7
killed by SIGSEGV (adamw, 17:17:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1673710 (adamw,
17:17:42)
* Proposed Blocker, gstreamer1, NEW (adamw, 17:17:42)
* AGREED: 1673710 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation
of "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of the
same release". We note that using VNC can be considered a
'workaround', but still think the bug is a blocker, and note that it
is not straightforward to do this in Boxes and it is not equal in
quality to the default config (adamw, 17:25:29)
* (1684612) Review Request: f30-backgrounds - Fedora 30 default desktop
background (adamw, 17:25:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1684612 (adamw,
17:25:38)
* Proposed Blocker, Package Review, NEW (adamw, 17:25:38)
* AGREED: 1684612 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation
of "The default desktop background must be different from that of
the last two stable releases" (the new package needs to be approved,
built and pushed in order to meet that criterion) (adamw, 17:30:03)
* Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:30:25)
* as we'll be in Beta freeze very shortly, let's review these next
(adamw, 17:30:40)
* (1684808) dark theme in Mate leads to unreadable text (adamw,
17:30:58)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1684808 (adamw,
17:30:58)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:30:58)
* AGREED: 1684808 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this bug makes it
hard to read the installer in MATE and obviously cannot be fixed
with an update (adamw, 17:36:56)
* (1600444) Wrong conflicts between dnf and yum prevents upgrade
(adamw, 17:37:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1600444 (adamw,
17:37:03)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, dnf, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:37:03)
* AGREED: 1600444 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as this
interferes with upgrades in a common case. Granting an FE allows a
fix to go to F30 stable during freeze, so upgrades run without
updates-testing enabled (the usual case) during freeze period will
not hit the bug (adamw, 17:49:18)
* (1677732) "Advanced Network Configuration" appears in "X-GNOME-Sundry"
folder (adamw, 17:49:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1677732 (adamw,
17:49:27)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gsettings-desktop-schemas, NEW (adamw,
17:49:27)
* AGREED: 1677732 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this will be
visible and confusing in the Workstation live, so it's worth fixing
and cannot be fixed with an update (adamw, 17:55:37)
* Proposed Final blocker (adamw, 17:55:43)
* finally, we'll do the proposed Final blocker (adamw, 17:55:49)
* (1683189) [abrt] gnome-remote-desktop: handle_socket_data():
gnome-remote-desktop-daemon killed by SIGABRT (adamw, 17:55:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683189 (adamw,
17:55:53)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-remote-desktop, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:55:53)
* the fix for this is built and tagged f30 so will be in any future
composes, thus no practical need to consider this bug, we will close
it (adamw, 18:01:27)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:02:17)
Meeting ended at 18:11:18 UTC.
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* (none)
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* jlanda (13)
* zodbot (13)
* sumantro (13)
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Notification time stamped 2019-03-04 17:02:36 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:41 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-04/fedora-qa.2019-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (adamw, 16:00:48)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:07:16)
* "cmurf to ask docs team to make sure F30 docs talk about effect of
LUKS2 encryption on using older releases' rescue mode on F30
installs" - cmurf did mail the docs team about this,
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/…
(adamw, 16:11:51)
* "frantisekz to check if F28/F29 support mounting and interacting
with LUKS2 created by F30 installation" - cmurf checked this before
frantisekz could, and the answer is 'yes they do' (adamw, 16:16:08)
* Fedora 30 status (adamw, 16:16:33)
* since last meeting, mass rebuild and branching have happened, and we
have had a few composes (adamw, 16:29:47)
* we are still having issues with composes quite often (adamw,
16:29:53)
* recent composes are basically functional, but there are some
significant outstanding upgrade bugs along with other miscellaneous
blockers (adamw, 16:30:20)
* Beta freeze and Bodhi activation point are scheduled in 7.5 hours
time (adamw, 16:32:10)
* Beta release dates are now coming up quite soon, we should ensure
that validation testing coverage is good for the nominated composes
(adamw, 16:36:06)
* Fedora 31 Change review: Python 3.8 (adamw, 16:39:22)
* will circle back to this in a second (adamw, 16:47:05)
* GNOME 3.31.92 released and the Fedora 30 schedule (adamw, 16:47:23)
* kalev lets us know the GNOME 3.31.92 release is this week, shortly
after Beta freeze, and desktop team will be requesting a Beta FE for
it. this is noted, we will review the FE as usual (adamw, 16:51:27)
* Fedora 31 Change review: Python 3.8 (adamw, 16:52:00)
* AGREED: QA is generally OK with this Change in principle, we are
somewhat concerned at the timing and would be happiest if the Python
3.8 release winds up happening *before* the Fedora 31 Final freeze
(adamw, 16:55:36)
* Fedora 31 Change review: Rawhide package gating (adamw, 16:55:45)
* that's our time, folks, blocker review in #fedora-blocker-review in
a minute (adamw, 16:58:49)
* we will meet again next week to finish the agenda (adamw, 16:59:23)
* that includes finishing discussion of this Change (adamw, 16:59:38)
* Open floor (adamw, 16:59:40)
Meeting ended at 17:02:36 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* kalev-afk (15)
* zodbot (14)
* jlanda (10)
* frantisekz (9)
* kparal (7)
* bcotton (5)
* lruzicka (5)
* tflink (4)
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* contyk (1)
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Notification time stamped 2019-03-04 15:57:04 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2019-03-04)
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Meeting started by zbyszek at 15:00:45 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-03-04/fesco.2019-03…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (zbyszek, 15:00:48)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2098 (zbyszek, 15:04:40)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2091 (zbyszek, 15:10:34)
* #2098 Fill Till's FESCo seat (zbyszek, 15:18:51)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2098 (zbyszek, 15:18:51)
* AGREED: APPROVED: bookwar is voted-in to take over tyll's seat. (+8,
0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:18:56)
* #2091 Add check for co-maintainers to orphan procedure (zbyszek,
15:19:01)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2091 (zbyszek, 15:19:02)
* AGREED: APPROVED: A recommendation to ask the co-maintainers or on
fedora-devel before orphaning, iff the owner has time to do this is
to be added. (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:19:35)
* #2096 F31 System-Wide Change: BuildRequires generators (zbyszek,
15:19:57)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2096 (zbyszek, 15:19:58)
* #2093 F31 System-Wide Change: Python 3.8 (zbyszek, 15:29:41)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2093 (zbyszek, 15:29:41)
* #1970 Action needed: Orphan packages will be retired if they remain
orphaned for six weeks (zbyszek, 15:39:37)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970 (zbyszek, 15:39:43)
* ACTION: mhroncok to draft a policy update proposal (zbyszek,
15:42:14)
* Next week's chair (zbyszek, 15:42:31)
* ACTION: contyk to chair next meeting (zbyszek, 15:42:46)
* Open floor (zbyszek, 15:42:54)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/dusty/failed-composes/issue/1574
(mhroncok, 15:44:48)
* /join #fedora-releng to follow the fun (zbyszek, 15:55:29)
Meeting ended at 15:57:04 UTC.
Action Items
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* mhroncok to draft a policy update proposal
* contyk to chair next meeting
Action Items, by person
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* contyk
* contyk to chair next meeting
* mhroncok
* mhroncok to draft a policy update proposal
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* (none)
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* mhroncok (39)
* nirik (30)
* contyk (27)
* zodbot (25)
* bowlofeggs (24)
* jforbes (15)
* bcotton (7)
* kalev (6)
* bookwar (6)
* otaylor (5)
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Notification time stamped 2019-03-01 17:04:08 UTC
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#epel: EPEL-8 Plan
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Meeting started by smooge at 16:11:36 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Review of packages (smooge, 16:12:45)
* RHEL-7.6 has 2728 src RPMs in base (smooge, 16:13:45)
* RHEL-8beta has 2679 src RPMs in base (smooge, 16:13:45)
* There are 1939 src RPMs which overlap (smooge, 16:13:45)
* EPEL-6 has 5930 src RPMs currently (many removed from peak)
(smooge, 16:14:35)
* EPEL-7 has 6891 src RPMs currently (some removed from peak)
(smooge, 16:14:35)
* RHEL-8beta has 419 EPEL-6 RPM names (smooge, 16:14:35)
* RHEL-8beta has 399 EPEL-7 RPM names (smooge, 16:14:35)
* 6492 EPEL-7 Packages are not in RHEL-8-beta (smooge, 16:15:12)
* 5511 EPEL-6 Packages are not in RHEL-8-beta (smooge, 16:15:12)
* 8149 EPEL-6/7 Packages are not in RHEL-8-beta (smooge, 16:15:12)
* 7945 of that 8149 are still in Fedora 30 (smooge, 16:15:34)
* 1017 RHEL-6/7 packages not in RHEL-8-beta but in Fedora 30 (smooge,
16:16:20)
* Missing Build Requirements (smooge, 16:18:02)
* big culprits python2-sphinx (and deps), groff-perl, qt4-devel, maven
tools, gcc-objc, gcc-gnat, compat-openssl10-devel, /usr/bin/python
(smooge, 16:19:45)
* Tdawson's rebuild (smooge, 16:23:25)
* Where do we go next? (smooge, 16:40:44)
Meeting ended at 17:04:08 UTC.
Action Items
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* tdawson (60)
* zodbot (6)
* centbot (3)
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