jkurik's meeting titled "F27 Final and Server Beta Go/No-Go meeting"
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#fedora-meeting-1: F27 Final and Server Beta Go/No-Go meeting
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Meeting started by jkurik at 17:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (jkurik, 17:00:29)
* Purpose of this meeting (jkurik, 17:02:40)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F27 Final and F27
Server Beta are ready for shipment, according to the release
criteria. (jkurik, 17:02:47)
* This is determined in a few ways: (jkurik, 17:02:54)
* * Release candidate compose is available (jkurik, 17:02:59)
* * No remaining blocker bugs (jkurik, 17:03:05)
* * Test matrices are fully completed (jkurik, 17:03:09)
* Current status (jkurik, 17:03:15)
* LINK:
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-27-20171101.0/
RC for the F27 Final (jkurik, 17:05:04)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Base
Test matrices for the F27 Final (jkurik, 17:05:09)
* RC for the F27 Server Beta is not yet ready. (jkurik, 17:05:15)
* As we have no RC for F27 Server Beta there are subsequently no Test
Matrices for the F27 Server Beta. (jkurik, 17:05:20)
* F27-blocker-review (kparal, 17:10:25)
* Introduction (kparal, 17:10:42)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (kparal, 17:10:42)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (kparal, 17:10:42)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(kparal, 17:10:42)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (kparal, 17:10:44)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (kparal,
17:10:46)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (kparal,
17:10:48)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(kparal, 17:10:50)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria
(kparal, 17:10:52)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Final_Release_Criteria
(kparal, 17:10:54)
* 7 Proposed Blockers (kparal, 17:11:23)
* 5 Accepted Blockers (kparal, 17:11:23)
* 0 Accepted 0-day Blockers (kparal, 17:11:23)
* 0 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (kparal, 17:11:23)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (kparal, 17:11:23)
* 6 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (kparal, 17:11:23)
* (1508706) No longer works with USB webcam 19ff:0103 , error "Tried to
capture in BGR3, but device returned format YUYV" (kparal, 17:11:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508706 (kparal,
17:11:33)
* Proposed Blocker, cheese, NEW (kparal, 17:11:33)
* AGREED: 1508706 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Final) -
this seems to be hardware dependent, so far about 20% of tested
cameras were affected. We think this is a low enough failure rate to
not consider this a release-blocking issue, but important enough to
be worth an FE if the release slips. (adamw, 17:18:42)
* (1508808) dbxtool service fails to start - EFI Signature List is
malformed (adamw, 17:19:07)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508808 (adamw,
17:19:07)
* Proposed Blocker, dbxtool, NEW (adamw, 17:19:07)
* AGREED: 1508808 - RejectedBlocker RejectedFreezeException (Final) -
this seems to only affect a minority of UEFI installs, based on
current information. the practical consequences of the failure are
not too terrible and can be fixed with a post-release update, so
given the limited breadth of impact we don't believe this qualifies
as a release blocking issue. (adamw, 17:25:36)
* (1508794) systemd/dracut doesn't wait for mediacheck to finish
(adamw, 17:25:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508794 (adamw,
17:25:52)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, POST (adamw, 17:25:52)
* AGREED: 1508794 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is a conditional
violation of the requirement that images boot by default. we believe
it will be encountered sufficiently often in the real world, and
leave a bad enough impression when it does happen, to accept it as a
blocker. (adamw, 17:33:02)
* (1469813) [abrt] gnome-shell: _g_log_abort(): gnome-shell killed by
signal 5 (adamw, 17:34:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469813 (adamw,
17:34:56)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:34:57)
* AGREED: 1469813 - punt (delay decision) - this is a rather complex
report with probably multiple different problems bundled up
together, we don't yet really have the information to make a
determination (adamw, 17:43:02)
* (1486002) grub2-mkconfig does not work if xen.gz is installed.
(adamw, 17:43:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1486002 (adamw,
17:43:14)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 17:43:14)
* AGREED: 1486002 - RejectedBlocker RejectedFreezeException (Final) -
best information at present is that Xen UEFI installs have never
worked. given this, we don't think it makes sense to treat this as a
last-minute release blocking bug, or grant a freeze exception. If
this turns out to be incorrect, we will re-evaluate. (adamw,
17:51:03)
* (1507931) Missing cursor with latest kernel in QXL+SPICE VM (adamw,
17:51:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1507931 (adamw,
17:51:12)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 17:51:12)
* AGREED: 1507931 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Final) -
we agreed that this doesn't really break things enough to constitute
a violation of the criteria, navigating gdm with a keyboard is easy
and there are workarounds like using a different video adapter.
However, it's visible enough to be worth fixing if the fix is not
too complex (adamw, 17:58:18)
* (1508899) Non-live Fedora 27 installs fail on Macs (adamw, 17:58:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508899 (adamw,
17:58:24)
* Proposed Blocker, mactel-boot, NEW (adamw, 17:58:24)
* AGREED: 1508899 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a blocker as
a violation of Basic criterion "When using a dedicated installer
image, the installer must be able to complete an installation using
the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces", for installs
to Mac (which is a supported platform) using the Workstation and
Everything netinst images (which are release-blocking) (adamw,
18:10:28)
* that's all the proposed Final blockers (adamw, 18:12:20)
* there is one proposed Server Beta blocker (adamw, 18:12:26)
* (1508576) freeipa module installation fails (adamw, 18:12:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508576 (adamw,
18:12:30)
* Proposed Blocker, fedora-modular-release, ASSIGNED (adamw,
18:12:30)
* AGREED: 1508576 - AcceptedBlocker (Server Beta) - clear violation of
Basic criterion "Release-blocking roles and the supported role
configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role
Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be
successfully deployed, started, stopped, brought to a working
configuration, and queried" (adamw, 18:14:11)
* that's all proposed blockers (adamw, 18:15:40)
* Test Matrices coverage (jkurik, 18:16:20)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Base
Test matrices for the F27 Final (jkurik, 18:16:28)
* The coverage of matrices is considered as sufficient (jkurik,
18:24:33)
* As there is no RC For F27 Server Beta Test matrices are not ready as
well and we are skipping the Test Matrices coverage check for the
F27 Server Beta Release. (jkurik, 18:24:48)
* Go/No-Go decision (jkurik, 18:25:00)
* LINK:
https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/acarter-fedora-docker-atomic-t...
(mattdm, 19:28:00)
* AGREED: We keep the meeting open till Friday, November 3rd, 17:00UTC
when we re-evaluate status of blockers and we make the final
decision. (jkurik, 19:36:35)
* Kohane will run the Go/No-Go meeting on the Friday as jkurik is not
available (jkurik, 19:36:43)
* both the blockers for which RC-1.3 was built - #1508899 and #1508794
- are verified resolved in RC-1.3 (adamw, 17:10:55)
* moving onto proposed blockers (adamw, 17:12:27)
* (1469813) [abrt] gnome-shell: _g_log_abort(): gnome-shell killed by
signal 5 (adamw, 17:12:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469813 (adamw,
17:12:46)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:12:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1509086 (adamw,
17:20:12)
* AGREED: 1469813 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - turns out that many
unrelated crash reports have been marked as duplicates of this one
due to a libreport issue (#1509086). the actual original crash here
is clearly too rare to constitute a release blocker. for the record,
we also have no indication that any of the dupes is important enough
to merit blocker status at this time. (adamw, 17:26:31)
* (1193590) Allow bash to have a default profile without the 'rootfiles'
package (adamw, 17:26:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1193590 (adamw,
17:26:45)
* Proposed Blocker, bash, ON_QA (adamw, 17:26:45)
* AGREED: 1193590 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
critpath bug that "has a severity rating of high or greater and no
reasonable workaround" and "cannot be fixed with a future stable
update"; we don't see any reasonable way to ship the bash in RC-1.3
and change the behaviour with a post-release update, and we agree
that the current behaviour is too problematic and must be reverted.
(adamw, 17:50:24)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/974 FYI (nirik, 17:55:22)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:57:02)
* Formal Go / No Go decision (nirik, 17:58:47)
* AGREED: f27 is no-go due to an outstanding blocker bug. We will slip
1 week. (nirik, 18:03:52)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:03:59)
* we have some FEs to consider, so let's do a quick FE review (adamw,
18:13:42)
* (1469813) [abrt] gnome-shell: _g_log_abort(): gnome-shell killed by
signal 5 (adamw, 18:13:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469813 (adamw,
18:13:48)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 18:13:48)
* AGREED: 1469813 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - the actual
original reported crash here is quite rare and we have no
information on any possible safe fix for it (adamw, 18:17:43)
* (1507420) LDB / Samba module version mismatch (adamw, 18:17:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1507420 (adamw,
18:17:50)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, samba, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:17:50)
* AGREED: 1507420 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - to our best
understanding, there is no need for a freeze exception to fix
incompatibility between libldb and samba, the versions in stable are
consistent. the update is internally consistent and can happily be
shipped as a regular post-release update. (adamw, 18:22:13)
* (1446934) Failure to import Box2D in Sugar Physics (adamw, 18:22:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1446934 (adamw,
18:22:28)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar-physics, ON_QA (adamw, 18:22:28)
* AGREED: 1446934 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this fixes an
issue in a non-blocking spin that would be a blocker in a blocking
spin, and the fix is clearly limited to only affecting Sugar, so
should be quite safe (adamw, 18:25:14)
* now taking a quick look at a couple of accepted freeze exceptions
with fixes to get opinions on whether to include them in RC-1.4
(adamw, 18:25:45)
* (1506802) glibc: Fix regression in handling of x86_64 subdirectories
in the ld.so search path (adamw, 18:25:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1506802 (adamw,
18:25:50)
* Accepted Freeze Exceptions, glibc, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:25:50)
* we're inclined not to pull this into RC-1.4 because...glibc (adamw,
18:32:47)
* (1508706) No longer works with USB webcam 19ff:0103 , error "Tried to
capture in BGR3, but device returned format YUYV" (adamw, 18:35:22)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508706 (adamw,
18:35:22)
* Accepted Freeze Exceptions, v4l-utils, ON_QA (adamw, 18:35:22)
* we don't have terribly strong opinions on this, no-one's super
enthusiastic about pulling it in or super opposed to it (adamw,
18:46:20)
* Open floor redux (adamw, 18:52:36)
Meeting ended at 19:03:15 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (391)
* nirik (144)
* Kohane (139)
* jkurik (114)
* mattdm (97)
* mboddu (73)
* kparal (68)
* sgallagh (45)
* zodbot (28)
* langdon (26)
* Kellin (22)
* puiterwijk (20)
* dustymabe (19)
* frantisekz (9)
* coremodule (8)
* situ (6)
* pbrobinson (5)
* lailah (5)
* mkolman (4)
* rdieter (3)
* nb (3)
* dowdle (3)
* smooge (3)
* pwhalen (2)
* contyk (2)
* kalev (2)
* Zy3hZ2L8 (2)
* rashmi (1)
* sumantrom[m] (1)
* ignatenkobrain (1)
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