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#fedora-meeting-3: Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks)
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Meeting started by nils at 14:00:21 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2017-08-08/modularity_wg…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (nils, 14:00:29)
* Agenda (nils, 14:03:56)
* Module naming policies (nils, 14:03:56)
* Host & Platform availability (nils, 14:03:56)
* Fedora 27 modular design (nils, 14:03:56)
* Modular Atomic Host (nils, 14:03:56)
* Modular Guidelines and Review Process (nils, 14:04:37)
* Module naming policies (nils, 14:05:05)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/modularity/pull-request/43 Module naming
policy proposal (contyk, 14:06:40)
* Host & Platform availability (nils, 14:08:14)
* The very first builds of Host & Platform are now available and the
initial test composes should be ready later today. (contyk,
14:14:56)
* Images will be available once we have the new installer module
available. The current Platform is messy and will be sanitized over
the next week or two. (contyk, 14:15:29)
* Fedora 27 modular design (nils, 14:15:42)
* We will be going through the list of required modules for Fedora 27,
their built-time and runtime dependencies and deciding what buckets
they should go into. (contyk, 14:25:44)
* We will also generate module templates for upstream maintainers
willing to help us with implementation, to guide them (contyk,
14:26:11)
* LINK: https://github.com/fedora-modularity/dependency-report A
helper module dependency reporting tool. WIP. (contyk, 14:26:27)
* ACTION: langdon to file a ticket in pungi(?) backlog to create a
modulemd -> pungi config generator (langdon, 14:44:57)
* Modular Atomic Host (nils, 14:46:03)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/312 Experiment with building
Atomic Host out of a module (contyk, 14:46:36)
* Expect a modular Atomic Host prototype within the next two weeks!
(contyk, 14:50:51)
* Modular Guidelines and Review Process (nils, 14:52:50)
* fedora council approved fesco approving the initial guidelines and
process, after that this group will be responsible for maintaining
them (langdon, 15:00:05)
* contyk, nils and geppetto are updating the spec (based on a couple
missing items from the last week or so) and associated guidelines to
be as close as possible (langdon, 15:00:23)
* ACTION: langdon shooting to file a ticket with fesco by the end of
the week to review it at the next fesco meeting next friday
(langdon, 15:00:40)
* ACTION: needs to get the bz product created to file review
requests.. which I don't think we have done or assigned anyone too
(langdon, 15:00:50)
* ACTION: needs to identify any other gaps in the process that I am
not thinking of (langdon, 15:01:03)
Meeting ended at 15:04:11 UTC.
Action Items
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* langdon to file a ticket in pungi(?) backlog to create a modulemd ->
pungi config generator
* langdon shooting to file a ticket with fesco by the end of the week to
review it at the next fesco meeting next friday
* needs to get the bz product created to file review requests.. which I
don't think we have done or assigned anyone too
* needs to identify any other gaps in the process that I am not thinking
of
Action Items, by person
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* langdon
* langdon to file a ticket in pungi(?) backlog to create a modulemd ->
pungi config generator
* langdon shooting to file a ticket with fesco by the end of the week
to review it at the next fesco meeting next friday
* **UNASSIGNED**
* needs to get the bz product created to file review requests.. which
I don't think we have done or assigned anyone too
* needs to identify any other gaps in the process that I am not
thinking of
People Present (lines said)
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* contyk (100)
* langdon (57)
* nils (57)
* asamalik (29)
* jkaluza (29)
* threebean (26)
* zodbot (15)
* ttomecek (14)
* tflink (3)
* geppetto (2)
* sgallagh (1)
* jkurik (1)
* dgilmore (1)
* mikedep333tflink (0)
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#fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2017-08-07)
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Meeting started by mboddu at 14:31:01 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-08-07/releng.2017-0…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (mboddu, 14:31:02)
* #6939 Tracking ticket for bodhi->pungi mashing (mboddu, 14:35:06)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6939 (mboddu, 14:35:19)
* This needs a change in MirrorManager but symlinks can be handled
easily (mboddu, 14:59:20)
* Alternative Architectures updates (mboddu, 15:00:56)
* Everything is fine with alternate architectures. (mboddu, 15:03:34)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/299 (dustymabe, 15:03:36)
* Open Floor (mboddu, 15:04:12)
* Tomorrow, Aug 8th is Fedora 24 EOL (mboddu, 15:04:48)
* The stage container builds are offline and Adam is still working on
the new architecture for OSBS (mboddu, 15:05:52)
* Patrick updated the koji config today morning and restarted all
builders (killing all active builds) because it was possible to
build things from forks (mboddu, 15:08:19)
* Patrick is also working on fixing some other possible issues
(mboddu, 15:08:53)
* Infra is planning a mass update/reboot cycle this week/tomorrow and
wed. So there will be some downtime. (mboddu, 15:12:06)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/releng/blob/master/f/scripts/koji-cleanup-signed.py
(dgilmore, 15:27:53)
* We need to look into bodhi auto cleanup to clean the mash lock files
under /mnt/koji/mash/updates/ (mboddu, 15:30:11)
Meeting ended at 15:32:03 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* dustymabe (74)
* dgilmore (57)
* mboddu (45)
* puiterwijk (22)
* zodbot (15)
* maxamillion (14)
* nirik (13)
* sharkcz (3)
* masta (2)
* Kellin (1)
* tyll (0)
* pbrobinson (0)
* pingou (0)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora-qadevel
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Meeting started by tflink at 14:00:31 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-08-07/fedora-qadeve…
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (tflink, 14:00:36)
* Announcements and Information (tflink, 14:04:42)
* ci-listener is up and running in the CentOS CI Infra - tflink,
pingou (tflink, 14:04:51)
* Moved tickets from Phabricator to the respective repositories
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/qa-devel@lists.fedoraproject.…
- jskladan, kparal (tflink, 14:07:00)
* Archived differentila revisions' "html snapshots" and raw diffs.
Accessible at
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/qa/phabarchive/differentials/phab.qa.fedora…
- jskladan, kparal (tflink, 14:07:00)
* Phabricator Migration (tflink, 14:09:24)
* LINK: https://phab.qa.fedoraproject.org/D1208 (jskladan, 14:12:31)
* for now, any patches on outside projects (i.e. infra) will have to
be discussed as patches, either in tickets or on ML (tflink,
14:17:16)
* now that we don't have phab linting our code, we need to find a new
way to have that check run (tflink, 14:25:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/taskotron/issue/227 (kparal, 14:26:11)
* now that we don't have phab running unittests on our code, we need
to find a new way to have that check run (jskladan, 14:26:58)
* Tasking (tflink, 14:48:07)
* Open Floor (tflink, 15:00:32)
Meeting ended at 15:01:45 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (102)
* kparal (85)
* jskladan (57)
* zodbot (6)
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-08-04)
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Meeting started by jsmith at 16:05:59 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-08-04/fesco.2017-08-0…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (jsmith, 16:06:05)
* Follow-ups (jsmith, 16:09:06)
* #1736 - Don't automatically close security bugs on Fedora EOL
(jsmith, 16:09:16)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1736 (jsmith, 16:09:16)
* AGREED: #1736 - eol scripts will be adjusted to move keyword:
security bugs to the next release and add a note that this was a
security bug and should be checked to see if it's fixed in the next
release (jsmith, 16:20:39)
* #1737 - Proposal: i686 SIG needs to be functional by F27 release date
(jsmith, 16:21:17)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1737 (jsmith, 16:21:17)
* AGREED: #1737 - Give the SIG two weeks to come up with their
criteria and come back to FESCo for approval, and if they don't,
drop i686 kernels for F28 (+1:8,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 16:30:51)
* #1744 - F27 System Wide Change: NSS signtool deprecation (jsmith,
16:31:14)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1744 (jsmith, 16:31:14)
* AGREED: #1744 - Reject as an F27 system-wide change, and accept as
an F28 system-wide change (+1:8:+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 16:43:15)
* #1745 - F27 System Wide Change: Switch OpenLDAP from NSS to OpenSSL
(jsmith, 16:43:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1745 (jsmith, 16:43:27)
* AGREED: #1745 - Due to the short F27 cycle, we defer this until F28
and accept it for that release. Please land it as soon after branch
as possible. (+1:8,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 16:48:43)
* #1747 - F27 System Wide Change: RPM 4.14 (jsmith, 16:48:57)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1747 (jsmith, 16:48:58)
* AGREED: #1747 -- This was already approved on 2017-07-21 (jsmith,
16:50:39)
* #1749 - F27 Self Contained Change: VirtualBox Guest Integration
(jsmith, 16:50:49)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1749 (jsmith, 16:50:49)
* AGREED: #1749 - FESCo would prefer that Fedora doesn't carry these
patches for F27 release kernel, instead deferring until it is clear
that there is a clear path they will be accepted upstream.
(+1:8,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 17:13:53)
* #1750 - Decide if EOL is one month after release, four weeks, or
something else (jsmith, 17:14:06)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1750 (jsmith, 17:14:06)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Schedule_Methodolo…
(nirik, 17:17:55)
* AGREED: $1750 - The use of "month" for marketing purposes is
unnecessary. Let's say "four weeks" or "28 days" everywhere and have
it done (+1:8,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 17:24:01)
* New business (jsmith, 17:24:10)
* #1751 - Request to accept a Self Contained Change after deadline
(jsmith, 17:24:24)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1751 (jsmith, 17:24:24)
* AGREED: #1751 Change is accepted (+1:8,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith,
17:26:11)
* #1690 - F27 Self Contained Changes (jsmith, 17:26:22)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1690 (jsmith, 17:26:22)
* Unified database for DNF (jsmith, 17:26:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_database_for_DNF
(jsmith, 17:26:35)
* AGREED: Defer "Unified database for DNF" to F28 (+1:6,+0:0,-1:0)
(jsmith, 17:43:50)
* Authselect: new toold to replace authconfig (jsmith, 17:44:02)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Authselect (jsmith,
17:44:02)
* AGREED: "New tool to replace Authconfig" is rejected, as it's
effectively just a new package. Repropose as a Change when it's
time to replace authconfig (+1:7,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 17:55:37)
* New default cipher in OpenVPN (jsmith, 17:55:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/New_default_cipher_in_OpenVPN
(jsmith, 17:55:54)
* AGREED: "New default cipher in OpenVPN" is approved (+1:5,+0:0,-1:0)
(jsmith, 18:00:50)
* Chinese Serif Fonts (jsmith, 18:01:04)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ChineseSerifFonts
(jsmith, 18:01:04)
* AGREED: "Chinese Serif Fonts" is approved (+1:6,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith,
18:04:51)
* libpinyin 2.1 (jsmith, 18:05:05)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/libpinyin2.1 (jsmith,
18:05:05)
* AGREED: "libpinyin 2.1" is approved (+1:5,+0:1,-1:0) (jsmith,
18:11:09)
* Platform Python Stack (jsmith, 18:11:22)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Platform_Python_Stack
(jsmith, 18:11:22)
* AGREED: "Platform Python Stack" is approved (+1:6,+0:0,-1:0)
(jsmith, 18:19:36)
* OpenSSH Server Crypto Policy (jsmith, 18:20:01)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpenSSH_Server_Crypto_Policy
(jsmith, 18:20:01)
* AGREED: "OpenSSH Server Crypto Policy" is approved (+1:6,+0:0,-1:0)
(jsmith, 18:28:13)
* #1752 Dealing with non reviewed Changes after "Completion deadline
(testable)" check point (jsmith, 18:28:23)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1752 (jsmith, 18:28:24)
* AGREED: #1752: Give items approved today one more week for
Completion deadline (+1:7,+0:0,-1:0) (jsmith, 18:35:55)
* Next week's chair (jsmith, 18:35:59)
* AGREED: sgallagh to chair next week (jsmith, 18:36:42)
* Open Floor (jsmith, 18:36:46)
* AGREED: FESCo meeting agenda to be updated to include last weeks
schedule deadlines and upcoming deadlines (1:7 0:0 -1:0) (dgilmore,
18:43:56)
* ACTION: dgilmore to update the wiki page for meetings (dgilmore,
18:44:17)
Meeting ended at 18:44:35 UTC.
Action Items
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* dgilmore to update the wiki page for meetings
Action Items, by person
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* dgilmore
* dgilmore to update the wiki page for meetings
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jsmith (168)
* sgallagh (133)
* dgilmore (105)
* nirik (78)
* Rathann (78)
* maxamillion (63)
* jforbes (52)
* kalev (43)
* ignatenkobrain (31)
* zodbot (22)
* dazo (11)
* cstratak (5)
* mattdm (3)
* nb (3)
* ecuba (3)
* pbrobinson (2)
* puiterwijk (2)
* jwb (0)
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
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Meeting started by stickster at 21:01:36 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-08-03/magazine.2017-0…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 21:01:41)
* Last week's stats (stickster, 21:07:24)
* July stats 366K page views, a new record beating our old record by
about 20% :-) (stickster, 21:08:32)
* Agenda adjustment (stickster, 21:09:25)
* Publishing next week (express style) (stickster, 21:12:46)
* ACTION: stickster finish editing espeak article, ryanlerch does
image alley-oop (stickster, 21:14:52)
* --- managing VMWare with Ansible --- (stickster, 21:15:08)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18292&preview=true (stickster,
21:15:10)
* AGREED: -1 on managing VMWare with ansible (stickster, 21:17:43)
* ACTION: stickster email author and see about other arrangements
(stickster, 21:17:53)
* --- disk space math --- (stickster, 21:19:13)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18311&preview=true (stickster,
21:19:16)
* AGREED: disk space math article is good to go with a Fedora angle
included (stickster, 21:20:34)
* --- Quickly resize images in Amazon S3 buckets --- (stickster,
21:21:03)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18289&preview=true (stickster,
21:21:06)
* AGREED: no vote until we see an outline or pitch (stickster,
21:22:29)
* ACTION: jwf Reach out to "How to quickly resize images in Amazon S3
buckets" author to ask for more info / Fedora angle (jwf, 21:27:48)
* --- Social media article --- (stickster, 21:27:56)
* ACTION: jwf continue to work this out with bexelbie to generate
desired article (stickster, 21:28:10)
* --- Ring.cx --- (stickster, 21:28:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18239&preview=true&preview_id=18239
(stickster, 21:28:37)
* ACTION: stickster email list/author to make sure this is still
progressing, and ask for it to be done before next Thu meeting
(stickster, 21:30:28)
* ACTION: jwf Create Fedora elections reminder / introduction article
for the upcoming voting period next week, publish on Monday morning
(jwf, 21:38:19)
* Mapping out blueprints for Flock 2017 (jwf, 21:44:16)
* LINK: https://flock2017.sched.com/ (jwf, 21:52:10)
* ACTION: stickster email bexelbie et al. to ask about Sched.org
population (stickster, 21:54:20)
Meeting ended at 21:57:45 UTC.
Action Items
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* stickster finish editing espeak article, ryanlerch does image
alley-oop
* stickster email author and see about other arrangements
* jwf Reach out to "How to quickly resize images in Amazon S3 buckets"
author to ask for more info / Fedora angle
* jwf continue to work this out with bexelbie to generate desired
article
* stickster email list/author to make sure this is still progressing,
and ask for it to be done before next Thu meeting
* jwf Create Fedora elections reminder / introduction article for the
upcoming voting period next week, publish on Monday morning
* stickster email bexelbie et al. to ask about Sched.org population
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jwf
* jwf Reach out to "How to quickly resize images in Amazon S3 buckets"
author to ask for more info / Fedora angle
* jwf continue to work this out with bexelbie to generate desired
article
* jwf Create Fedora elections reminder / introduction article for the
upcoming voting period next week, publish on Monday morning
* ryanlerch
* stickster finish editing espeak article, ryanlerch does image
alley-oop
* stickster
* stickster finish editing espeak article, ryanlerch does image
alley-oop
* stickster email author and see about other arrangements
* stickster email list/author to make sure this is still progressing,
and ask for it to be done before next Thu meeting
* stickster email bexelbie et al. to ask about Sched.org population
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* stickster (106)
* jwf (85)
* ryanlerch (45)
* zodbot (11)
* sgallagh (1)
* nb (1)
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