Hi
The original story writer seems well meaning but perhaps a bit confused as he primarily writes about Ubuntu but also mentions Red Hat and Fedora. A clarification might help. Anyone wants to step up?
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/09/213258&art_pos=2
Rahul
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:39:38PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
The original story writer seems well meaning but perhaps a bit confused as he primarily writes about Ubuntu but also mentions Red Hat and Fedora. A clarification might help. Anyone wants to step up?
The original story is here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/164633/trademarks_the_hidden_menace.html
There already seem to be a number of people poking at the large holes in this article, including the outside counsel for the OSI, Mark Radcliffe. Do we really have much to add to the discussion? If so, no problem, just note what you're interested in having clarified.
On 05/12/2009 05:24 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:39:38PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
The original story writer seems well meaning but perhaps a bit confused as he primarily writes about Ubuntu but also mentions Red Hat and Fedora. A clarification might help. Anyone wants to step up?
The original story is here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/164633/trademarks_the_hidden_menace.html
There already seem to be a number of people poking at the large holes in this article, including the outside counsel for the OSI, Mark Radcliffe. Do we really have much to add to the discussion? If so, no problem, just note what you're interested in having clarified.
Specifically
" To be fair, at the time of the creation of the Enterprise distro, Red Hat also created the Fedora project to encourage the creation of an entirely unrestricted Linux distro. "
In the context of the article, he seems to assume that Fedora is not a trademark. Otherwise that comparison doesn't make sense. Of course, Fedora trademark guidelines are more liberal being a community project as opposed to a commercial product. That warrants a response IMO.
Rahul
On 05/12/2009 05:24 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:39:38PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
The original story writer seems well meaning but perhaps a bit confused as he primarily writes about Ubuntu but also mentions Red Hat and Fedora. A clarification might help. Anyone wants to step up?
The original story is here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/164633/trademarks_the_hidden_menace.html
There already seem to be a number of people poking at the large holes in this article, including the outside counsel for the OSI, Mark Radcliffe. Do we really have much to add to the discussion? If so, no problem, just note what you're interested in having clarified.
... btw, LWN has picked it up now
http://lwn.net/Articles/332848
Rahul
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 05:36:44AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/12/2009 05:24 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:39:38PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
The original story writer seems well meaning but perhaps a bit confused as he primarily writes about Ubuntu but also mentions Red Hat and Fedora. A clarification might help. Anyone wants to step up?
The original story is here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/164633/trademarks_the_hidden_menace.html
There already seem to be a number of people poking at the large holes in this article, including the outside counsel for the OSI, Mark Radcliffe. Do we really have much to add to the discussion? If so, no problem, just note what you're interested in having clarified.
... btw, LWN has picked it up now
Great, victim of the re-re-re-re-recycling "news" cycle of the Internet. News was so much more reliable when Uncle Walter just read it every evening! :-)
This is a good opportunity to ask this question: What's the best way to get clarifications out there? By that, I mean, what effectively puts the clarification in front of the most eyeballs? What's most effective to be seen by people Googling?
I'm thinking the answer isn't to post the same correction on two dozen different web sites.
On 05/12/2009 05:45 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I'm thinking the answer isn't to post the same correction on two dozen different web sites.
Add a comment on the original site and post the same to LWN and send it to the author as an email as well. Yes, it is a bit of redundancy but I don't see another way.
Rahul
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 05:57:05AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/12/2009 05:45 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I'm thinking the answer isn't to post the same correction on two dozen different web sites.
Add a comment on the original site and post the same to LWN and send it to the author as an email as well. Yes, it is a bit of redundancy but I don't see another way.
What about the other sites that pick it up from the Washington Post, where it got its original traction? (Serious question.)
On 05/12/2009 06:06 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 05:57:05AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/12/2009 05:45 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I'm thinking the answer isn't to post the same correction on two dozen different web sites.
Add a comment on the original site and post the same to LWN and send it to the author as an email as well. Yes, it is a bit of redundancy but I don't see another way.
What about the other sites that pick it up from the Washington Post, where it got its original traction? (Serious question.)
Unless you want to track every one and comment in all of them, I would say, pick the relevant ones and let the rest go. We can't educate the world in a single day.
There is a genuine friction between Free software and trademarks. Unfortunately this article doesn't capture it well and only adds more injury to the lack of basic legal knowledge among foss developers.
If we are going the extra mile, get Red Hat Magazine folks to get one of our lawyers to answer the basic questions on trademarks and it's interaction with FOSS and post the video. Then publicize that heavily.
Rahul
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 06:46 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I'm thinking the answer isn't to post the same correction on two dozen
different web sites.
hi,
I don't know how viable this is.. We create a wiki page that handles all the confused/incorrect articles with required comments.. No need to comment all posts..Call it a "Incorrect Media post feedback page" or something.. People will refer to it to check if a post they're reading has something wrong in it before relying on the article.. ?? Or other sites will refer to it before picking up a post from somewhere..
The page could also have a section where you could submit an article that you've come across for "checking".
PS : the name really needs to be worked upon.. :)
regards,
Ankur
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