Hey all,
There's a readiness meeting for this Thursday, how're we doing on marketing tasks? Any folks interested in taking up the announcements this time around?
Best,
jzb
Il giorno lun, 03/08/2015 alle 12.52 -0400, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:
Hey all,
Hello,
There's a readiness meeting for this Thursday, how're we doing on marketing tasks?
From marketing tasks [0]:
- Cleanup Marketing wiki from previous releases -> I think it's related to this page [1] and seems ok (except for the screenshots still F21).
- Cycle Marketing wiki pages for current release -> I don't know if done (honestly I still have issues to understand what does it mean, sorry).
- Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) -> as above
- Spins Freeze--All Fedora 23 Spins Identified -> not clear yet [2]
- Create Talking Points -> not done
- Proposed Changes Profiles -> [3]?
- Fedora 23 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting -> anyone will attend?
- Create Alpha Announcement (Marketing & Docs) -> not done.
Any folks interested in taking up the announcements this time around?
I'm going to take up the announcement and the talking point pages, is there any draft? Or can I follow the previous [4]?
Best,
jzb
Gabri
[0] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Spins [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/ChangeSet [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_Alpha_release_announcement
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On 08/03/2015 02:47 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
I'm going to take up the announcement and the talking point pages, is there any draft? Or can I follow the previous [4]?
I haven't started a draft. I'd probably start with the previous release or from scratch.
It may help to have the talking points first, though we may need to develop them simultaneously since we're very close to the deadline for the announcement.
Best,
jzb
Il giorno lun, 03/08/2015 alle 14.55 -0400, Joe Brockmeier ha scritto:
It may help to have the talking points first, though we may need to develop them simultaneously since we're very close to the deadline for the announcement.
Here's the draft https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points I tried to split up features/changes in the right flavours, but if you take a look, I'll be more pleased.
There's to check out the state of "Fedora 23 Boost 1.59 Uplift".
Thanks.
Gabri
On 08/03/2015 04:57 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
It may help to have the talking points first, though we may need to develop them simultaneously since we're very close to the deadline for the announcement.
Here's the draft https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points I tried to split up features/changes in the right flavours, but if you take a look, I'll be more pleased.
There's to check out the state of "Fedora 23 Boost 1.59 Uplift".
Haven't had a chance to look yet, but we also need to get this in front of the cloud, server, and workstation groups.
Il giorno 03/ago/2015, alle ore 23:24, Joe Brockmeier jzb@redhat.com ha scritto:
On 08/03/2015 04:57 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
It may help to have the talking points first, though we may need to develop them simultaneously since we're very close to the deadline for the announcement.
Here's the draft https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points I tried to split up features/changes in the right flavours, but if you take a look, I'll be more pleased.
There's to check out the state of "Fedora 23 Boost 1.59 Uplift".
Haven't had a chance to look yet, but we also need to get this in front of the cloud, server, and workstation groups.
Ok, here's late, I'll do tomorrow. Have a good day. Gabri
On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 20:47 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
Hello,
Hiya!
Before I begin working on screenshots for F23, do we need them? I ask because we didn't do them for F22.
I've created an empty wiki page already, but thought I'd confirm before I started getting screenshots.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_screenshots_library
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 17:00 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hiya!
I can work on the one page release notes if we want to do them this release. Do we? They were done last for F15 from the looks of it:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:One_page_release_notes
Here is the SOP:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/One_page_release_notes_SOP
Just so I understand this correctly, the release notes that docs do are most detailed. Then, we summarise them into talking points (which mailga did), and then we further summarise these into a page which becomes the one page release notes?
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.09 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 17:00 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hiya!
I can work on the one page release notes if we want to do them this release. Do we? They were done last for F15 from the looks of it:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:One_page_release_notes
Here is the SOP:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/One_page_release_notes_SOP
Just so I understand this correctly, the release notes that docs do are most detailed. Then, we summarise them into talking points (which mailga did), and then we further summarise these into a page which becomes the one page release notes? --
I think the one page release notes is unnecessary. We skipped them for many previous releases. As you detected is a redundancy of the talking points, that are the starting points for ambassadors.
The release announcement will summarize the features as well as talking points do, so we can avoid to report again the same things.
IMHO.
Gabri
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.00 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 20:47 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
Hello,
Hiya!
Before I begin working on screenshots for F23, do we need them? I ask because we didn't do them for F22.
I've created an empty wiki page already, but thought I'd confirm before I started getting screenshots.
Hello Ankur,
correct; your page is linked in the main marketing wikipage https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing.
You can upload screenshot there.
Thanks.
Gabri
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:13 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
Hello Ankur,
Heya Mailga,
correct; your page is linked in the main marketing wikipage https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing.
You can upload screenshot there.
I'm asking if we really want a library of screen-shots - are they used at all? Or is this another legacy deliverable that we are no longer interested in?
Il giorno mar, 04/08/2015 alle 17.21 +0100, Ankur Sinha ha scritto:
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:13 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
I'm asking if we really want a library of screen-shots - are they used at all? Or is this another legacy deliverable that we are no longer interested in?
I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on.
Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as a lack of care.
Gabri
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:34 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on.
Well, I don't know how many users pick screenshots from the wiki. We didn't have them for F22 and we received no complaints. Unfortunately, we have no metrics on this, so I'm just assuming that the screenshots aren't used too much. It's much easier for people to take screenshots on their own systems than to fetch them from our wiki page which isn't well advertised.
Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as a lack of care.
getfedora.org does have images on the products. If we do a screenshot library, could we maybe have a link to this on getfedora.org? Something like "See more screenshots!".
The one issue I have with this is that the wiki isn't the most posh place to host a screenshot library if we're thinking of advertising it to users. Should we use the wiki as an image dump for ourselves and then put the best up on Flickr or something with CC licenses? (Flickr or another open source image platform)
Hi,
I think going back to the other email post, about screenshots, since we have Fedora Next I would like to get away from the wiki and have something that would match the theme of the Fedora Next web pages. Maybe Design could come up with some cool pictures or some banners for the article on the Magazine.
- Chris Roberts
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ankur Sinha" sanjay.ankur@gmail.com To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 6:43:14 PM Subject: Re: Fedora 23 Alpha Readiness
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 18:34 +0200, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
I think they still have worth for the users. E.g. many of them need the screenshot when are going to write installation notes in their locale or also are useful to see in advance the desktop and so on.
Well, I don't know how many users pick screenshots from the wiki. We didn't have them for F22 and we received no complaints. Unfortunately, we have no metrics on this, so I'm just assuming that the screenshots aren't used too much. It's much easier for people to take screenshots on their own systems than to fetch them from our wiki page which isn't well advertised.
Its also a question of brand: doesn't provide screenshots may appear as a lack of care.
getfedora.org does have images on the products. If we do a screenshot library, could we maybe have a link to this on getfedora.org? Something like "See more screenshots!".
The one issue I have with this is that the wiki isn't the most posh place to host a screenshot library if we're thinking of advertising it to users. Should we use the wiki as an image dump for ourselves and then put the best up on Flickr or something with CC licenses? (Flickr or another open source image platform)
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 05:43:14PM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Well, I don't know how many users pick screenshots from the wiki. We didn't have them for F22 and we received no complaints. Unfortunately, we have no metrics on this, so I'm just assuming that the screenshots aren't used too much. It's much easier for people to take screenshots on their own systems than to fetch them from our wiki page which isn't well advertised.
We also didn't get much press _at all_ on Fedora 22. I don't know if this is related — screenshot-tour articles have historically been common. I guess worth looking back at those to see if those are their own screenshots (in which case we're really just competing with our own press!) or if they used ours (resulting in more articles).
The one issue I have with this is that the wiki isn't the most posh place to host a screenshot library if we're thinking of advertising it to users. Should we use the wiki as an image dump for ourselves and then put the best up on Flickr or something with CC licenses? (Flickr or another open source image platform)
Yeah I think a good rule is: we should *never* send end-users to the wiki.
On 08/04/2015 12:00 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Before I begin working on screenshots for F23, do we need them? I ask because we didn't do them for F22.
We didn't? Yes, we want screenshots for each release.
Best,
jzb
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