Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for the second half of
this important meeting.
Thanks to the tireless* efforts of our outstanding QA folks, testing on
RC4, created late yesterday, has been ongoing all night long. We'll be
having the second-and-a-half round of our F16 Beta Go/No-Go TODAY. The
first half of this meeting occurred yesterday[1][2], and it was decided
that we would make a stretched effort to have another RC including fixes
by midnight last night that looked viable, which actually happened. (Had
it not been viable, we would have called it No-Go by midnight.)
Thursday, September 29, 2011 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT)
"Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering
meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular
release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting."
"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of
the QA Team."
For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Beta Blocker list:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
-Robyn
* Though I know you guys are *very* tired, and your work is MONDO
appreciated.
[1] Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-28/f16_beta_go_no_g…
[2] Logs:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-28/f16_beta_go_no_g…
Meeting Minutes from Go/No-Go Round 2.0:
====================================================
#fedora-meeting: F16 Beta Go No Go Meeting Round two
====================================================
Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:24 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-28/f16_beta_go_no_g…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Who is here? (rbergeron, 21:00:53)
* present: jdulaney, nirik, rbergero (rbergeron, 21:01:03)
* Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:01:47)
* Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to see whether or not the
beta release criteria have been met. (rbergeron, 21:02:28)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria
(rbergeron, 21:02:43)
* Current release blockers (rbergeron, 21:05:29)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
(rbergeron, 21:05:38)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727522 (adamw, 21:08:57)
* AGREED: 727522 is really fixed, the apparent rc2/rc3 reproducers
were pilot error (adamw, 21:11:50)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:11:53)
* 737731 doesn't block f16 image creation, will get fixed by an F15
update. (rbergeron, 21:13:06)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741655 (adamw, 21:13:45)
* AGREED: 741655 is not a beta blocker as it's a crazy custom
partition layout, moved to final (adamw, 21:15:51)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741781 (adamw, 21:16:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741781#c19
provides an explanation of the two bugs, if you want a quickish
catch-up (adamw, 21:18:29)
* AGREED: If we have a built anaconda and RC4 by midnight pacific
tonight, opt to do go/no-go tomorrow. Otherwise, slip one week.
(rbergeron, 21:37:28)
* if we don't have what is needed by midnight pacific, Robyn will send
out the No-Go Mail. (rbergeron, 21:39:32)
* ACTION: nirik will be coordinating the RC; he needs to be told when
anaconda/grub is ready. (rbergeron, 21:39:48)
* For status updates/questions, please check in #fedora-qa
(rbergeron, 21:41:42)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741817 (adamw, 21:43:10)
* AGREED: 741817 not a blocker as long as it leaves f15 install
bootable, adamw will check that (adamw, 21:53:56)
* Re-No/Go Meeting time (rbergeron, 21:54:13)
* AGREED: will meet tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel, to do
final go/no-go decision. (rbergeron, 21:56:32)
* robyn will be out tomorrow (rbergeron, 21:56:44)
Meeting ended at 21:58:19 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* nirik will be coordinating the RC; he needs to be told when
anaconda/grub is ready.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* nirik
* nirik will be coordinating the RC; he needs to be told when
anaconda/grub is ready.
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* adamw (125)
* jdulaney (28)
* nirik (27)
* dgilmore (26)
* jsmith (24)
* pjones (11)
* VileGent (4)
* zodbot (4)
* tflink (3)
* hno (3)
* brunowolff (1)
* tk009 (1)
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Hi People!
If you allowed me, I would like to share my last week short story. The
Hungarian Red Hat partner(1, 2) gave me an opportunity to work for
them as a drupal developer. The executive director could see on
various Fedora sites what I am doing. I applied this job that's why I
would like to say a huge thank you! I thank all of you!
(1) https://www.europe.redhat.com/training/partners.php#HU
(2) http://redhat.force.com/finder/PFPartnerDetail?id=001300000094XDFAA2
--
Peter Borsa
http://asrob.net
gpg fingerprint: EF52 EF5D 9604 E11C 8219 242B AB24 5B0B C6CD 1242
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting.
Wednesday, September 28, 2011 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT)
"Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering
meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular
release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting."
"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of
the QA Team."
For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Beta Blocker list:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
-Robyn
Hi!
Here is the list, which contains some packages what I packaged,
740458, 740778, 740782, 740820, 740834, 740849, 740855. If someone
review one of them, I would appreciate that. Thanks.
--
Peter Borsa
http://asrob.net
gpg fingerprint: EF52 EF5D 9604 E11C 8219 242B AB24 5B0B C6CD 1242
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…
Meeting started by pcalarco at 20:24:25 UTC (full logs<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>).
Meeting summary
1.
* http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-20/insight.2011-09-… (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:25:20)
2. previous meeting action items (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:25:33)
* stickster sent in updates on his action items to logistics list' (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:27:20)
* https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/drupal7-token (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:32:55)
* stickster said that he continues to work on D7 packaging for those that he owns in D6 (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:38:49)
* stickster is also continuing to research errors in authfas module; he hasn't had time since last mtg to make progress on this (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:39:31)
* stickster finished puppet problems on insight.stg; there was a bad line in the pull script (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:40:20)
* stickster also noted that sdodson will be working with limb for more packaging help (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:41:29)
* finally, stickster notes that he finished setting up prod pull of features/theme, every 4 hours; the separate theme RPM can be pulled from infra repo shortly, after we know it is working properly (pcalarco<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>, 20:42:35)
Meeting ended at 20:44:46 UTC (full logs<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-27/insight.2011-09-…>).
Action items
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People present (lines said)
1. pcalarco (30)
2. asrob (16)
3. zodbot (5)
4. jsmith (3)
5. nirik (1)
20:24:25 <pcalarco> #startmeeting
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20:24:29 <pcalarco> #meetingname Insight
20:24:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'insight'
20:24:36 <pcalarco> #chair asrob nirik
20:24:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: asrob nirik pcalarco
20:25:20 <pcalarco> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-20/insight.2011-09-…
20:25:33 <pcalarco> #topic previous meeting action items
20:27:20 <pcalarco> #info stickster sent in updates on his action items to logistics list'
20:27:22 <asrob> pcalarco, I'm almost finished, here is the BZ's numbers: 740458, 740778, 740782, 740820, 740834, 740849, 740855
20:27:42 <pcalarco> asrob: great, that you for that work and details!
20:27:51 <pcalarco> thank you, rather :)
20:28:13 <asrob> pcalarco, and I'm working on another action item
20:28:26 <pcalarco> asrob: great, go ahead
20:29:31 <asrob> pcalarco, I was so busy last week, ULX Kft. (Hungarian Red Hat Partner) gave me a job as a drupal developer
20:29:53 <pcalarco> asrob: congratulations, that's wonderful!
20:30:09 <asrob> pcalarco, yes, that is, thank you ;)
20:30:33 <pcalarco> asrob: double thanks then for all the work you've done
20:30:54 <asrob> np :)
20:32:26 <pcalarco> I have one note to report on the new packages for Drupal 7; drupal7-token is now packaged
20:32:49 <pcalarco> thanks to asrob for that!
20:32:55 <pcalarco> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/drupal7-token
20:33:27 <asrob> oh, yeah, I forgot this :)
20:34:51 <asrob> pcalarco, anything else?
20:37:01 <pcalarco> asrob: I don't think so
20:37:23 <pcalarco> asrob: do you have any new issues?
20:37:39 <asrob> pcalarco, no, I do not
20:37:56 <asrob> but I don't what about Paul's packages
20:38:31 <asrob> I didn't packaged all of them
20:38:38 <pcalarco> stickster said that he continues to work on D7 packaging for those that he owns in D6
20:38:49 <pcalarco> #info stickster said that he continues to work on D7 packaging for those that he owns in D6
20:39:23 <asrob> yeah, but we have common packages
20:39:31 <pcalarco> #info stickster is also continuing to research errors in authfas module; he hasn't had time since last mtg to make progress on this
20:40:04 <asrob> I mean there is a package when he is a co-maintainer
20:40:14 <asrob> and there is a package when I am :)
20:40:20 <pcalarco> #info stickster finished puppet problems on insight.stg; there was a bad line in the pull script
20:40:33 <asrob> I'll write an email and ask him about this
20:40:34 <pcalarco> asrob: yes, I see
20:40:40 <jsmith> I'll continue to try to help out with Drupal 7 packages as well
20:40:41 <pcalarco> asrob: good idea
20:40:42 <jsmith> (time permitting, of course)
20:40:50 <pcalarco> #chair jsmith
20:40:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: asrob jsmith nirik pcalarco
20:40:59 <pcalarco> jsmith: Hi and thanks!
20:41:05 <asrob> jsmith, hey, cool!
20:41:29 <pcalarco> #info stickster also noted that sdodson will be working with limb for more packaging help
20:42:35 <pcalarco> #info finally, stickster notes that he finished setting up prod pull of features/theme, every 4 hours; the separate theme RPM can be pulled from infra repo shortly, after we know it is working properly
20:43:05 <pcalarco> ok. so I thiunk that records all the updates from last week!
20:43:31 <pcalarco> asrob, jsmith, nirik: anything else Insight to discuss?
20:43:41 <asrob> pcalarco, nothing
20:43:53 * jsmith has nothing
20:44:08 * nirik has nothing
20:44:32 <pcalarco> ok, thank you all for participating! That wraps up our meeting this week a bit early
20:44:46 <pcalarco> #endmeeting
We'll meet as usual at 4pm US-Eastern (2000 UTC) in IRC Freenode
#fedora-meeting. Note that some locations may have a time change for
daylight savings time. The times listed above are correct, please
adjust accordingly!
The last meeting notes are here:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-20/insight.2011-09-…
Please come with an update on your action items if possible. Here's
mine:
* stickster finish setting up production pull of features/theme
DONE! The production host is starting to pull every 4 hours. This
means we can remove the separate theme RPM from Infrastructure repo
shortly, after we know the pull is working successfully.
* stickster email sdodson to get him in touch with ke4qqq for
sponsorship
DONE! Although I think sdodson may be working with limb (Jon
Ciesla) for this.
* stickster figure out why insight.stg isn't pulling its puppet stuff
as expected
DONE! Fixed, there was a bad line in the pull script which I've
fixed in puppet.
* stickster continue to research lingering errors in authfas module,
although it does appear to authenticate properly now
CONTINUES, haven't been able to work on it in the past week.
* stickster package all his personally owned D6 modules for D7
CONTINUES, will do some this week.
--
Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/
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http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
Late yesterday at the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta
release of F16 by one week [1]. Minutes follow below.
There are numerous unresolved blockers at this time [2], resulting in
the inability to compose a viable release candidate.
As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be
pushed out by one week.
We will proceed with having the F16 Beta readiness meeting today,
2011-09-22, as previously announced on the Logistics mailing list. We
will have another F16 Beta Blocker Bug meeting this Friday.
The adjustments to the F16 schedule will be done as soon as humanly
possible, and published to the Schedule wiki page[3].
Thanks for your patience. We will be meeting again next Wednesday for
another Go/No-Go meeting.
-Robyn
[1] Logs:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-09-21/f16_beta_go_no…
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-09-21/f16_beta_go_no…
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/Schedule
============================================
#fedora-meeting-1: F16 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting
============================================
Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:02:12 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-09-21/f16_beta_go_no…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Gathering Bodies and Minds (rbergeron, 21:02:28)
* Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:03:53)
* The purpose is to decide whether the *beta* release criteria hav
ebeen met. (rbergeron, 21:04:34)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria
(rbergeron, 21:05:13)
* Remaining Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 21:06:02)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
(rbergeron, 21:06:14)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (adamw,
21:07:20)
* LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw,
21:07:32)
* Big outstanding bugs are 738803, 737731, 738964. (rbergeron,
21:07:59)
* we have fixes for 738803, 738964, but landed recently and we dont'
have a compose with them yet. (rbergeron, 21:09:55)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (adamw, 21:11:52)
* Unable to make system bootable due to bootloader choice (tflink,
21:12:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (tflink,
21:12:20)
* AGREED: - 738964 - AcceptedBlocker - This can cause lots of problems
with existing disks and installations. The fix needs quite a bit of
testing by nature (tflink, 21:19:12)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (adamw, 21:19:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (tflink,
21:20:21)
* SELinux denial(s) prevent(s) gnome-shell from starting on F16 Beta
RC1 (tflink, 21:20:30)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:22:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (tflink,
21:24:17)
* Bootloader is left in F15 configuration when preupgrading to F16
(tflink, 21:24:26)
* http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (adamw, 21:26:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (tflink,
21:27:25)
* boot hangs with udevadm settle - timeout of 120 seconds (tflink,
21:27:34)
* will make final call on 735866 staying as blocker or not on friday
(rbergeron, 21:37:27)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737774 (adamw, 21:38:10)
* AGREED: 737774 is a blocker (adamw, 21:41:05)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739258 (adamw, 21:41:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739258 (tflink,
21:41:27)
* Graphical firstboot runs, even if /etc/sysconfig/firstboot has
RUN_FIRSTBOOT=NO (tflink, 21:41:38)
* AGREED: 739258: jsmith is sure about this one but no-one else can
reproduce, ask jsmith to look into it more closely and re-evaluate
on friday (adamw, 21:49:16)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739345 (adamw, 21:49:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739345 (tflink,
21:50:08)
* pylorax throws an exception when used with fedora-logos-16.0.2
(tflink, 21:50:19)
* AGREED: 739345 is a blocker as it can make it impossible to generate
images (adamw, 21:55:48)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739910 (adamw, 21:56:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739910 (tflink,
21:56:28)
* gnome-packagekit fails when trying to update - The package id's ''
are not valid (tflink, 21:56:46)
* AGREED: 739910 is not a blocker or nth as the affected
gnome-packagekit is not in the beta frozen package set (adamw,
22:01:53)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 (adamw, 22:02:19)
* AGREED: 739253 is a blocker per criterion "All release-blocking
desktops' offered mechanisms (if any) for shutting down, logging out
and rebooting must work" (adamw, 22:07:37)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672023 (adamw, 22:07:48)
* ACTION: adamw to follow up on 739253 with halfline (adamw,
22:07:58)
* AGREED: 672023 does not hit any criteria, but it would be good to
avoid getting crash reports from the live image with no trace:
rejectedblocker, acceptednth (adamw, 22:12:56)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731549 (adamw, 22:13:34)
* LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/i18n
(nirik, 22:16:57)
* ACTION: adamw and dlehman to co-ordinate fix for 731549 with i18n
team (adamw, 22:18:22)
* Go/No Go (rbergeron, 22:21:30)
* qa votes no, outstanding unresolved blockers in the current
candidate build. (rbergeron, 22:22:45)
* jsmith, rbergeron also vote no-go. (rbergeron, 22:22:51)
* AGREED: We are a no-go for Beta. (rbergeron, 22:23:27)
* We will regroup next Wednesday, same time, for another go/no-go, as
well as having another blocker meeting Friday. (rbergeron,
22:23:47)
* Release readiness meeting will happen tomorrow as planned.
(rbergeron, 22:24:16)
* ACTION: rbergeron to send out mail, notify, update the schedule.
(rbergeron, 22:24:32)
Meeting ended at 22:26:35 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to follow up on 739253 with halfline
* adamw and dlehman to co-ordinate fix for 731549 with i18n team
* rbergeron to send out mail, notify, update the schedule.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to follow up on 739253 with halfline
* adamw and dlehman to co-ordinate fix for 731549 with i18n team
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to send out mail, notify, update the schedule.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* rbergeron (88)
* tflink (57)
* jsmith (46)
* nirik (34)
* zodbot (7)
* dgilmore (4)
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Fedora 16 Beta Release Readiness Meeting.
date: 2011-09-22
place: irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting-1
time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern, 12 PM Pacific)
This Thursday, September 22, we will meet to make sure we are
coordinated and ready for the public release of Fedora 16 Alpha on
Tuesday, September 27, 2011. Please note that this meeting will occur
on September 22 *even if the release is delayed at the Go/No-Go meeting
on August 21.*
This meeting works best when we have representatives from all of the
teams, so we'll be looking for the following people to attend or send a
representative in their place.
Also note that we will be in #fedora-meeting-1, as we will otherwise
conflict with folks in #fedora-meeting.
Ambassadors -- Pierros Papadeas
Design -- Máirín Duffy
Documentation -- Zach Oglesby or Eric Christensen or John J. McDonough
FESCo -- Kevin Fenzi
Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway
Fedora Project Leader -- Jared Smith
Infrastructure -- Kevin Fenzi
Marketing -- Robyn Bergeron
Quality -- Adam Williamson
Release Engineering -- Dennis Gilmore
Translation -- Noriko Mizumoto
Websites -- Ricky Zhou
See you Thursday!
-Robyn
Thanks to some snooping and exceptional support from Kevin Fenzi, the
staging system is back. IIUC the database privileges weren't correct
following the move to db02.stg.
Thanks, nirik!
http://insight.stg.fedoraproject.org/
--
Paul