Perhaps I can be on IRC at the same time as one or more members of the design team to go through what remains to be done on the templating side of things?
I think that templates are all that's left now...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mel Chua <mel(a)redhat.com>
Sent: 22 December 2009 10:48
To: Fedora Logistics <logistics(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Fedora Insight theme packaged - what deployment blockers remain?
Thanks to Hiemanshu, Fedora Insight now has a packaged theme. It's in
infrastructure repos and F11 and F12 ones are also available. The
package is called zikula-fedora-theme.
Mind you, it's not a *finished* theme. All sorts of fun CSS/js to-dos
still remain - see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design
(and help if you can!) - but it's installable via yum, and *works.* For
proof, see http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/zikula.
...and with that, it actually looks like our list of packages is
actually... all... packaged!
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox#Fedora_Insigh…
Simon's earlier email
(http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000303.html)
seems to indicate that fixing the zikula-fedora-theme package is the
last thing we have to do, meaning that as soon as the three blocker
design tickets on
https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&statu…
are fixed, we're hypothetically good to puppetize and go to staging.
I'd like to remove the "hypothetically" from that last sentence. Now
that all but 3 things on our to-do list are done, we should check again
that all the things we need to do are actually on our to-do list. Is
there anything else we're waiting for? What on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status is a blocker for
initial production deployment, and what is an "it would be nice to have,
but we could do it after launch" thing?
--Mel
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On 12/19/2009 11:43 AM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
> Anyways the repo is located at
> git://git.fedorproject.org/git/fedora-insight-theme.git
Wow. Thanks, Hiemanshu!
I've also copied these instructions over to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design, and am happy to
move them somewhere else if there's a better spot on the wiki. I suspect
that eventually we'll want to move this to the Websites space, perhaps
after launch when we update the documentation as part of the backend
handoff.
--Mel
Went to the Websites meeting yesterday to talk about Fedora Insight.
Short version: We've got us some CSS help from Websites to finish up
theming, and they'll be taking on maintenance of the back-end (FWN and
Marketing will continue to own workflow and content) once we do the
initial launch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites#Fedora_Insight
What this means immediately:
CSS design tickets are getting worked on.
(https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&statu…)
I've cc'd everyone with FAS access to the theme group and everyone who
owns a Fedora Insight CSS/Design ticket to make sure they're informed,
know who the others working on the theme are, and can (possibly) make
arrangements to sprint on IRC together; I'd suggest making sure that
both the Websites and Design teams know when and where that work will be
happening.
We'll also have proper versioning for theme stuff, finally - thanks to
Hiemanshu for getting us into git! (Hosting ticket =
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1886, but it's
just been taken care of.)
Hiemanshu should be posting "here's the repo / how to use it"
instructions shortly, I believe.
--Mel
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We used to have a weekly Zikula meeting before the licensing issues
brought us to a screeching halt. We are mostly beyond that, now. To
meet the Insight time-line Zikula needs to be up and running in 2.5
months (at Alpha). That would also work for Docs as well.
The following people need to be at the meeting:
David (ke4qqq)
Eric (Sparks)
Mel (mchua)
Simon (itbegins)
Anyone else?
If those NEED people could send me their available times I'll put
together a time to meet.
Also, we could use some additional packagers. If you would like to help
us out, please let me know that as well and I'll include your schedule
in my consideration.
Thanks,
Eric
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Since a substantial portion of what Marketing is working on between now
and Alpha (March 2) is getting infrastructure/tools up so we can do our
work efficiently for the rest of the cycle, here's a quick update on our
two big marketing-related infrastructure projects, also sent to
Logistics for cross-team goodness (and mayyybe packaging help? maybe?).
Project 1: Zikula
This is for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight (which
includes FWN, and will be largely reusable for Docs), and progress is
being tracked on the logistics list,
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics.
We are currently (still) on publictest6. We want to have soft-launched
on production by Alpha (March 3).
Simon has an overview of the remaining work that needs to be done before
we can be puppetized
(http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000303.html)
He's also updated the "how to set up a zikula sandbox" instructions,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox.
We are blocked by final fixes to the theme (design/CSS help needed!)
which will then need to be packaged, as well as licensing issues with
Scribite
(http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000301.html)
but it looks like the interaction between Fedora and Zikula folks is
beginning to snowball
(http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000302.html)
I'd like to see if we can get packagers + upstream on IRC at the same
time to just Work Out these licensing issues at one go, because asynch
communication is Very Slow.
After those blockers are out, I *think* we'll be go for puppetizing.
Project 2: Limesurvey
This is for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research#Infrastructure, and
seems like it should be relatively straightforward (but then again,
that's what I thought for zikula...) Robyn Bergeron and Ryan Rix are
driving this from the Marketing side of things, but I'm temporarily
stepping in for Ryan since he's afk for exams this week.
As far as I know, there's only one package involved in this (limesurvey)
which is still under review
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508817) It *sounds* from
the comments like it should be done and ready for approval, but a
reviewer (*coughIancough* is needed).
In the meantime, I tried installing the latest SRPM from Eric (Sparks)
on pt6, and failboated, details here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_limesurvey_sandbox#Install_t….
Once the package is approved and installed on pt6, I *think* that's all
we'll need (we might want to change the logo, but that's trivial and I
really can't think of anything else atm).
In the meantime-meantime, because we need to get the FUDCon survey up
yesterday, we're giving limeservice $10 to host a 250-response survey
for us so we can start administering that survey tomorrow. That means
we'll have a db ready to migrate whenever our limesurvey instance goes
up, plus people with familiarity administering limesurvey software via
the web interface (some of us, myself included, have used it before and
know the rudiments).
Questions? Comments? Am I missing something? (Is this helpful?)
--Mel
I've updated the Zikula sandbox guide at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox
In theory, the first half or so should be enough to completely replicate the pt6 instance on a different machine. Its not too complicated as a process, fortunately.
As far as I can tell, our major remaining item(s) is the template/design work which will require input from me as in places we will need some advanced template logic. We're very close, but we'll need some bandwidth from both me and the design team to get us over the finishing line.
Simon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pascal Calarco [mailto:pcalarco@nd.edu]
> Sent: 09 December 2009 00:56
> To: Simon Birtwistle; For discussions about marketing and expanding the
> Fedora user base
> Subject: Fedora Insight: Remaining items
>
> Hi all --
>
> Simon made excellent progress on Monday resolving most of the errors on
> publictest6 for Fedora Insight. Xinhua works nicely and I am able to
> submit, decision, and publish articles with the workflow we designed
> for
> FWN.
>
> However, we are not ready to launch yet. We still need to cluster
> individual FWN beats into a single issue. When I publish items, they
> aren't showing up on the interface yet, as the design needs to get
> synched with the templates that we worked on at FUDCon. There are a
> number of design tickets open that Mo was working on. Diana made good
> progress on some of these, and we should get the detail for these
> tickets updated, but there are a number of tickets that we need Mo or
> someone else on the design team to document and work on.
>
> We also did not quite get to the staging server, AFAIK.
>
> Perhaps we could meet on IRC sometime later this week to discuss
> further? Thanks!
>
> - pascal
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Some questions from Nicolas (including package licensing ones I can't
answer - help?), forwarded with permission - please reply-all so that he
gets the answers as well.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Nice to hear how its going with Zikula ...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:05:12 +0100
From: Nicolas Berens <nicolas(a)zikula.org>
To: Mel Chua <mel(a)redhat.com>
> Hi, Nicolas!
Hi Mel!
>
> A screenshot tour of the final pagemaster workflow (once it's done)
> sounds like a great idea - actually, one of the first articles I'd
> like to see on the site once it launches is the story of how the many
> people in the zikula community and from the various Fedora teams came
> together to make this project happen - it's the kind of collaboration
> that wouldn't happen
Sounds nice !
>
> I'm copying the Fedora Logistics list, where the different teams
> working to put up our zikula-based sites coordinate, along with
> Pascal Calarco and Dale Bewley, the Fedora Weekly News folks behind
> our current workflow. They're the ones who'll probably be best
> positioned to say "ok, we're done! here's how the workflow goes!"
> when the time comes.
>
> You might also be interested in how we packaged pagemaster it for
> Fedora - the ticket is here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483
>
> There was some head-scratching about finding a static URL for
> downloading the source
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483#c2) and a few
> other things you can see in the comments thread, like its
> relationship with filterutil and such. Would you or others on the
> pagemaster team, or within the zikula community, be interested in
> helping us figure out how to streamline the
> getting-zikula-stuff-into-fedora workflow so that when the next
> version of pagemaster comes out, we can deploy it much more quickly?
I would be really interested, but also some of the zikula core devs will
beginn iirc within the next months to work on the pagemaster project,
because its getting more important for us.
A Static Download url is maybe a problem. All Module downloads on
community.zikula.org <http://community.zikula.org> are handled by our
ExtensionsDB which creates always an individual package with the right
language packs and other stuff that is needed (for example the core
etc). Would it be ok for you when i package every release, upload it to
the cozi and send you an E-Mail , so you can download it
here: http://code.zikula.org/pagemaster/downloads ? This would be the
easiest way for me.
I have another question, I also work on the MediaAttach Module (a Module
that enables an upload functionality to other modules), which seems to
be quite interresting for you (Simon said something like this). And i
have a ticket relating license issues of the librarys used within
MediaAttach ( http://code.zikula.org/mediaattach/ticket/104 ) where
David Nelly (seems to be one of your guys) is mentioning swf upload
which has a MIT License. AFAIK MIT is opensource and compatible with
GPL. Do you know why he thinks that there could be a Problem ?
Greetings from Germany,
Nicolas
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The new version of Scribite (4.0) is ready to be pushed to the repo. I
can't do that, however, as it requires Zikula 1.2. Any update on when
that will be ready to go?
- --Eric
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I'd like to setup a meeting for early next week between the translators
and the docs folks to work out the schedule for the F13 release.
I was thinking Monday between 1800 UTC and 2000 UTC or between 2300 UTC
and 0300 UTC (Tuesday).
Would there be a time in there that we could meet?
Thanks,
Eric
Docs Project Lead
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