The iso is downloading as I write. My intention is to see if I can run using Festival and the builtin Orca screen reader.
I understand David has made GDM accessible. What do I do to start speech for GDM Login? Is it Ctrl-S for 5 seconds?
And, what login should I use?
Sorry for the fundamental questions--but I'm not finding even basic documentation. Perhaps I'm not looking in the right place?
Thanks in advance.
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:57 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
The iso is downloading as I write. My intention is to see if I can run using Festival and the builtin Orca screen reader.
I understand David has made GDM accessible. What do I do to start speech for GDM Login? Is it Ctrl-S for 5 seconds?
Should be ctrl-s and only a second or so should be needed.
And, what login should I use?
If your resolution is > 800x600, then you'll get the user list; if not, then log in as fedora[1].
Jeremy
[1] This will be fixed for F7...
Hi Janina,
The iso is downloading as I write. My intention is to see if I can run using Festival and the builtin Orca screen reader.
I understand David has made GDM accessible. What do I do to start speech for GDM Login? Is it Ctrl-S for 5 seconds?
Yeah, Ctrl+s for one second or longer. Btw, if your computer have a PC speaker (most do), gdm will emit a beep when it's loaded. This is a convenient hint when to press Ctrl+s since it will take a minute or two to get to gdm at all.
When orca starts it should start speaking "Welcome to Orca". Then you should be able to tab to the user list and Orca should read the user names - I think there's still one bug where the list don't receive focus immediately so maybe you have to press down when in the user list.
Alt+L will bring up a language list menu. Alt+T will bring up an options menu. Both of these menus should be accessible. It's unfortunately not possible to tab to them because it's not pure GTK+.
When you log in, the same AT's you enabled in the login screen will be started in the session as well.
And, what login should I use?
The login is 'fedora'.
Sorry for the fundamental questions--but I'm not finding even basic documentation. Perhaps I'm not looking in the right place?
It's definitely something we need in the release notes; it's not exactly as discoverable as I'd like.
FWIW, I'm not yet entirely satisfied with how accessibility works in Fedora. The plan for Fedora 8 includes using the plain greeter which have much better accessibility as it's using standard GTK+ widgets instead of GnomeCanvas (we can still make it look pretty by using standard GTK+ theming facilities). It's worth noting, AFAIK, that Solaris does this for accessibility reasons.
In closing, accessibility is something we want to work very well in Fedora including Live CD and accessible installs (don't think the installer is not accessible in Fedora 7.. but it's using GTK+ so it's definitely fixable).
Feedback, good and bad, is very welcome! Many thanks!
David
On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 14:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
David Zeuthen wrote:
It's definitely something we need in the release notes; it's not exactly as discoverable as I'd like.
I have already added the login information to the release notes long time back.
Great thanks.
If information on A11y is required I would need some content.
I think my previous mail got all the details you need apart from the fact that other AT's can be started as well. Also worth checking out
/etc/gdm/modules/AccessDwellMouseEvents /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents
for how that works (e.g. ctrl+M brings up the magnifier). If you have questions just email me off-list. Thanks.
David
livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org