Hello.
I'm asking the Fedora legal team to review the latest Audacity license and privacy notice[1]:
The App we provide is not intended for individuals below the age of
13. If you are under 13 years old, please do not use the App.
Also it now collects a lot of sensitive data and send them to Google and Yandex. I believe this violates the GDPR.
I think this application is no longer completely free and open source and should be removed from Fedora.
[1]: https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vitaly Zaitsev vitaly@easycoding.org wrote:
Hello.
I'm asking the Fedora legal team to review the latest Audacity license and privacy notice[1]:
The App we provide is not intended for individuals below the age of
- If you are under 13 years old, please do not use the App.
Also it now collects a lot of sensitive data and send them to Google and Yandex. I believe this violates the GDPR.
I think this application is no longer completely free and open source and should be removed from Fedora.
-- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vitaly@easycoding.org)
Please don't blow things out of proportion. All the networking features that the maintainers of Audacity have added can be disabled in the build system through appropriate CMake variables, and then the resulting binaries won't contain any code to provide usage data/crash reports/update checking.
-Ian
On 04/07/2021 15:54, Ian McInerney wrote:
All the networking features that the maintainers of Audacity have added can be disabled in the build system through appropriate CMake variables, and then the resulting binaries won't contain any code to provide usage data/crash reports/update checking.
I will quote this again:
The App we provide is not intended for individuals below the age of
13. If you are under 13 years old, please do not use the App.
This is a major GPLv3 violation:
This License explicitly affirms your unlimited permission to run the
unmodified Program.
On Monday, 05 July 2021 at 13:38, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote:
On 04/07/2021 15:54, Ian McInerney wrote:
All the networking features that the maintainers of Audacity have added can be disabled in the build system through appropriate CMake variables, and then the resulting binaries won't contain any code to provide usage data/crash reports/update checking.
I will quote this again:
The App we provide is not intended for individuals below the age of
- If you are under 13 years old, please do not use the App.
This is a major GPLv3 violation:
This License explicitly affirms your unlimited permission to run the
unmodified Program.
IANAL, but it only says "not intended" and "please do not use". It doesn't explictly forbid such usage. I think you're blowing this out of proportion, too.
Regards, Dominik
On 05/07/2021 13:46, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
IANAL, but it only says "not intended" and "please do not use". It doesn't explictly forbid such usage. I think you're blowing this out of proportion, too.
That's why I'm asking the professional layers of the Fedora Legal team to sort this out.
I wonder if the authors have been sued by parents of some kids who damaged hearing turning up volume? Maybe they just need a disclaimer?
On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 13:49 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote:
On 05/07/2021 13:46, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
IANAL, but it only says "not intended" and "please do not use". It doesn't explictly forbid such usage. I think you're blowing this out of proportion, too.
That's why I'm asking the professional layers of the Fedora Legal team to sort this out.
On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 12:21 -0400, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:
I wonder if the authors have been sued by parents of some kids who damaged hearing turning up volume? Maybe they just need a disclaimer?
IANAL but my guess is that it's simply due to the data collection and the age of consent thereof in recently enacted privacy laws, and would only apply to their pre-built packages ("The App we provide"). If the dial-home "features" can indeed be disabled at compile time (as suggested earlier in this thread), then hopefully the point is moot?
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