Hmmmm. I wonder what the SPDX answer is for "copyright license on a logo
that really should be trademark guidelines"...
Tom
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 14. 05. 20 18:37, Tom Callaway wrote:
> In this case, this is a logo, which is also a trademark (though, not a
> registered one as far as I can see).
>
> Since the software does not require the logo to be present (or to be
more
> specific, the software _license_ does not require this), and there are
no
> restrictions on distribution (only modification), it seems to me that
this logo
> presents no real risk or burden to our users or downstream.
Additionally, it is
> noteworthy that the Fedora logos (and other FOSS logos such as the
Firefox and
> Chromium logo) are part of Fedora with similar restrictions on modifying
them.
> Ideally, these restrictions would be separated from the copyright
licensing (as
> they would be more applicable as trademark use guidelines), but the
intent is clear.
>
> Assuming that Richard Fontana agrees, I would be inclined to clarify our
stance
> on permissible content (as found here:
>
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging:What_Can_Be_Packaged)
to
> call out the following as another example of permissible content:
>
> * Logos/trademarks are permissible, as long as all of the following
conditions
> are met:
> A. The logo/trademark files are distributed by the owner (or with the
clear
> and explicit permission of the owner)
> B. The logo/trademark files are distributable by third-parties.
> C. The logo/trademark files have a direct relationship to software
under an
> acceptable license that is present in Fedora (or about to be added at
the same time)
> D. Any existing trademark guidelines/restrictions/rules on the
> logos/trademarks do not prevent Fedora (or anyone) from fully exercising
the
> rights given them in the licensing on the associated software.
> Permission to modify is not required for logos/trademarks, but their use
must
> NOT be contingent upon restrictions that would conflict with the license
terms
> of the associated software. Two examples:
> 1. The associated software may require the removal or replacement of the
> logos/trademarks if the software is modified. Removing/replacing the
logos does
> not prevent Fedora (or anyone) from fully exercising the rights given to
them in
> the FOSS software license. In this case, the software and the logos
would be
> permissible, but the logos may have to be removed/replaced if Fedora (or
anyone
> downstream) makes modifications to the software. Packagers in such a
situation
> should be especially careful.
> 2. The software license cannot require the logos/trademarks to be used
in the
> software and simultaneously have trademark guidelines that only permit
use on
> unmodified versions of the software. In this scenario, neither the logos
nor the
> software would be permissible in Fedora.
> If you're not sure if a logo/trademark is acceptable for inclusion, feel
free to
> bring the specific situation to the attention of Fedora Legal for review.
>
> ****
> Under these criteria, the lua logo would be acceptable (as would the
existing
> Firefox/Chromium logos).
>
> Thoughts?
This is exactly the rule I assumed we already had but couldn't find.
Thanks.
BTW If this goes fine, what would I put in License? GPLv2 and Lua Logo?
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