On 2009-02-25 at 17:57:01 -0500, Eric Moret <eric.moret(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for a quick reply. I have already created a request on the fedora
> artwork design service page for replacement of icons and resources:
> Despite the pdn license page and upon further inspection I was not able to
> locate the source code of GPC anywhere in the source of the package. Off
> course I might have overlooked it. Here is the current SRPM:
The problem is that because the license says that Paint.NET includes it,
you're going to need to find it and pull every bit of it out (or get the
GPC copyright holders to permit its use under the terms of a free license).
I would like to package Paint.NET for Fedora. It seems this application
includes the source code of the GPC project which is licensed under its own
terms. Could you please let me know if this license would be acceptable for
inclusion in Fedora?
On 18 Feb 2009, wrote:
> We have a contributor from Iran.
This is no news. Fedora has had quite a few contributors from Iran
before. We have had Iranian package maintainers, bug reporters, code
contributors, translators, ambassadors, etc already. They have been
Iranian citizens, some living in (and contributing from) Iran, some
living in the west (Canada, US, etc).
> It is obvious to me that we can not directly provide him support [...]
What makes it obvious? Are you thinking of any specific law? There are
various United States laws restricting some kinds of business with
"foreigners", but all of them detailed exceptions for this and that.
> The first question in my mind is: what type of liability exists for us
> to have 'members' of Fedora in such countries.
I don't think we need to be extra careful with contributors from Iran,
or any other countries, unless we talk about specific laws. Please
don't let the media carry you away.
Lots of Iran-related stuff I've encountered in the free software world
are just based on FUD. So unless there is a specific law mentioned,
one shouldn't don't worry.
> The example I am
> thinking of is if he as an individual downloads Fedora isos and
> distributes them at an event in Iran, is there risk to us because he
> is a member of the Fedora Project.
That has already happened before quite a few times. I have personally
downloaded such ISOs, burnt them to CDs, and distributed them in
events in Iran when I lived there. I was an Iranian living in Iran,
and the Iranian laws did not forbid me or my sponsors to do that, as
far as I could tell (and we had lawyers look into it too).
> Perhaps a better question is: What is he forbidden from doing.
Whatever the Iranian laws forbids him to do. He is under Iranian
jurisdiction. Tell him to talk to an Iranian lawyer. That's what I
One of the "Iranians" >:)
Ohh legal-type ones:
We have a contributor from Iran (and I imagine that you are already
engaged on the trademark issue for a proposed website).
This gentleman has recently been sponsored as an Ambassador and
recently asked the question about what he can do within Iran.
I responded and told him that I had been pondering this question but
had no answers and would appeal to those who are more qualified to
It is obvious to me that we can not directly provide him support
however I think his questions are valid, and there have been recent
conversations about other countries in similar situations such as
The first question in my mind is: what type of liability exists for us
to have 'members' of Fedora in such countries. The example I am
thinking of is if he as an individual downloads Fedora isos and
distributes them at an event in Iran, is there risk to us because he
is a member of the Fedora Project.
Perhaps a better question is: What is he forbidden from doing. Given
the recent list traffic regarding Cuba and now Iran, perhaps codifying
such restrictions would be beneficial. If such a page already exists,
please feel free to ignore my question and just point me there, but my
friend Google yielded little other than this blog post from Greg a
Another question - supposing some level of involvement is acceptable,
and that Fedora EMEA e.V. is not subject to such restrictions (it's my
belief that EU countries have no such law regarding Iran, but whether
that's a belief grounded in reality might be a different matter) could
Fedora EMEA support activities in $forbidden_places? I know RH Legal
is trying to wrap it's head around the entire non-profit organization
stuff at the moment, so perhaps we can also get this answered in the
The w3c-markup-validator package contains a copy of the "ISO-HTML" DTD
in /usr/share/sgml/w3c-markup-validator/ISO-HTML/15445.dtd which contains:
Copyright (C) 2000, IETF, W3C (MIT, Inria, Keio), ISO/IEC.
All Rights Reserved.
Permission to copy in any form is granted for use with
validating and conforming systems and applications as defined
in ISO/IEC 15445:2000, provided this copyright notice is included
with all copies.
Is the "for use with ..." part a problem wrt. inclusion in Fedora? The
definitions of validating and conforming systems are documented at
If it is a problem, is evicting the file from binary packages enough, or
should it be removed from inside source rpms too?
On 2009-02-16 at 14:42:30 -0500, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>> On 2008-12-26 at 5:50:31 -0500, "Andrea Musuruane" <musuruan(a)gmail.com>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'd like to now if xBill is suitable for inclusion in Fedora:
>>> License, as stated in the man entry, is GPL (no version specified).
>>> My concerns regard the use of various logos in the game.
>>> Also note that this game has been packaged until 2001 in Red Hat.
>> Red Hat Legal says this is not acceptable.
> Is it because of the artwork? We can get it replaced.
Well, the issue is that the game is clearly disparaging Microsoft and
its marks. I'm not sure any amount of "artwork" replacement will
There are some packages that contain W3C logos and icons which are not under
the W3C software license, but are covered by other licenses.
At least the "W3C Icon" and a bunch of "W3C Validator Logos" are included in
some packages. There are some constraints on these icons/logos that I think
might make them problematic for inclusion Fedora:
1) No modification permitted (OTOH I believe it's the same thing with
Mozilla's logos in firefox, thunderbird etc).
2) The "W3C Valid $foo" logos may only be used on pages that pass validation,
and they have some other usage restrictions wrt. where they can/must link to
What does this mean for packages including these icons? Are they ok as is,
undistributable, ok if icons removed from binary packages and software/docs
modified to link to online icons on W3C sites instead of shipped copies, ok
with icons removed also from source tarballs in the source rpm, something
else? Affected packages include at least w3c-markup-validator (icons both in
source and binary rpms), xhtml1-dtds and html401-dtds (some icons in source
rpms, but not in binaries).
An entry in the license list for this wouldn't hurt.
Greetings, can anyone help me identify this license?, I am not sure if tag
it as BSD with adventising because it says "The end-user documentation"
Sequence Library License
This license applies to all portions of the Sequence library, which
are not externally-maintained libraries (e.g. junit or jsch).
Copyright (c) 2000-2008 SyntEvo GmbH, Ainring, GERMANY.
All rights reserved.
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
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