Hi KevinYou are right about security. I was an owner of a security business catering to
banks.I am retired for 6 years now. I worked for 55 years in industry as scientist,
business analyst,security analyst and business owner.
KDE is insecure. Any user can change his settings and he can wipe out any way to use his
logon.Why is KDE not root managed for every user and to not allow the user to change
begins by protecting the user from damaging his own environment.
At what level is there a security risk? Most of those IOT devices do not need security.
The "System On A Chip" (SOC) is strictly function limited.Its not a
That box I discussed has a range for the remote control to 30 feet or about 10 meters.
The IOT devices we are looking at are bluetooth connected. No WWW connection.
With today's technology and future design, I am not and will not be able to manage my
neighbours IOTs.My IOT devices are mac address is hard wired. Same for the other IOT
devices. Functionality is limited.
An IOT example is the USB dongle for your keyboard and mouse. The CPUs in these devices
are not programmable,
they are controllers.
I have a digital weather station mounted on my wall. It synchronizes to the atomic clock
time daily,and displays local temperature and barometric pressure. I can query it with my
Can someone defeat that IOT device? Yes, but for what benefit? My FM radio is digital.
Its function is limited.
Most IOT things, by being limited in functionalty are secure.
I would surmise that RedHat sees the disappearance of the menu and the use of icons for
top level management.We do that with KDE, where we move icons to the desktop and to the
KDE will morph into something even better, responding to we users needs. And it will be
Montréal Québec, Canada
On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 11:40:28 p.m. EDT, Kevin Kofler
You are confirming exactly what I wrote:
Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
We have a 3 inch by 3 inch android box for our TV. I have 2000
channels, and many options for email setup, youtube, movies, etc.It can
accept a keyboard as a remote wireless device. It is an excellent IOT.
That box has no hard disk, just some ram for cache and buffering and a SOC
(software on a chip) Cost in Canada --$100.00
When you have a security hole on that device, you have no way to fix it.
Amazon and Google sell andoid devices that take speech and provide
All the commands you give to those devices are sent to Amazon's or Google's
servers for processing. They can be given to a human (that happens more
often than you realize, the automatic voice recognition is nowhere near as
good as they claim, so they have many dictation typers), automatically used
to control advertising, etc. And the device can even mishear the trigger
("Alexa" or "Hey Google") when you haven't even said it and then
recording and sending everything you say to the company. There are
documented cases of that happening.
With those devices, you can see a whole range of new applications,
refrigerator alarms, etc.
But also a whole range of security holes and privacy invasions.
There is no worry if the IOT is locked source. The android app is in
and can be reprogrammed for use under Linux.
If it were so easy to make it work under GNU/Linux, why do you need Android
They also use the cloud for hard disk storage.
That means they are sending all their private data to some external provider
who can read everything! (Even if they claim to encrypt the data, can you
verify that, and also that the encryption is sound and not backdoored, if
the client supposedly doing the encryption is proprietary and obfuscated?
The encryption might even be done on the server side, leaving open an
obvious backdoor to get at the unencrypted data, while still technically
satisfying the claim that your data is encrypted.)
I am looking forward to live video and video conferencing with KDE,
do on my cellphone with facebook.
There are already Free as in speech video conferencing applications. The
issue is that both sides need to use them and that hardly anybody does. The
Free Software applications are typically interoperable with each other,
using one of a handful open standards to communicate, but that does not help
if everybody is using some proprietary walled garden with vendor lock-in
such as Skype or WhatsApp.
I expect that many cellphone functions will arrive onto Linux and be
functioning with KDE or (gasp) Gnome.
It would be nice to have some of that functionality, but only if it is
implemented in a way that does not destroy our freedom, security, and
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