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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Saturday 30 May 2009 23:21:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 30 May 2009 18:03:19 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Hi All
> > Just installed the Beta from unstable. Seriously... has
> > seen bug fixes? Or are the KDE developers simply adding
features that add
> > more bugs?
> Dozens of them. Anything particular in mind?
These are the ones I've checked at first glance. Almost all
of them Konqueror
related, And none
of the Konqueror bugs have been addressed. Leave a this for
Seems fine to me in 4.3b1. Seems slow
to load, but once done, I
don't see any performance issues. The toolbar has a little
delay before seeing the hand cursor, but clicking still works
as expected despite the cursor not changing.
Something like this
isn't going to please everybody in every
situation. Personally, I find the issue in that background/font
color are separate choices in CSS. They should be required
together or not at all.
This is almost always the kicker for me going back to Oxygen
colors after using Obsidian Coast for a while. Firefox has just
as bad a time with it as Konqueror in my experience.
Cannot confirm in
nothing we in Fedora can do.
Confirmed in 4.3b1
as well. By watching what happens in
Firefox, it instead enforces the requested table size, loads
the text then starts the scrolling. This causes text to be
written on top of other text before the page is completely
loaded. Konqueror uses the height of the marquee for the
marquee, but for layout, there is no size specified.
Personally, I think the site is relying on other browser
bugs/quirks. Looking at the source and references, the height
attribute isn't necessary (looking at wiki's list of attributes
for it; hell, marquee isn't even standard), so Konqueror would
just be playing puppet to other browsers. There is no standard
dictating how those should be handled.
Not something I get
to test/use all that often (read: maybe
once or twice in a few years), but I can see why it's
The last on complains about the lack of capability to stretch
panels across 2 monitors. And this
lack, in my desktop environment, represents a real useabiltiy
bug. Serious enough for me to move
to xfce which does this flawlessly.
KDE Brainstorm may be a
place for this.
As for konqueror vs firefox. Look firefox is not a kde app.
Its mime types automatically link to
gtk apps. Currently and more and more tentatively I use kde.
do not want to use gtk apps to
read pdf or view multimedia or evolution and I do not want to
have to manually reconfigure the
gazillion or so mime types to open kde apps. If I want to use
gtk apps I would use a gtk based
windows manager. I use kde and a core application is very
I understand; Firefox is a Windows app ported to Linux making
it play its own game (I touched on this in my latest rant in my
Look I need to say this; plasmoids are a very very nice idea.
They look great and make the
desktop look cool. The things is the desktop is next to
useless. It gets covered up as soon as
you use your computer to do anything at all. Unless of course
the way you use your computer is to
simply stare at your cool desktop. Heck I even have a package
out there of a plasmoid. But being
the end all and be all of windows management is a colossal
mistake. Panels are the only app that
makes the desktop constantly useful. Applets (ok plasmoids
now) on panels when designed correctly
places functionality, accessibility and information
immediately available with a single click or
quick glance regardless of what else is going on (except for
full screen games :) ).
So don't place plasmoids on the desktop. My desktop is
currently...just a wallpaper. I have too many windows open all
the time to deal with moving them around. I have quite a few
locked in position/size/desktop and the mask has no hole in it,
so no position is always safe here. Ctrl-F12 is there to expose
the plasmoids. I just tested and if you're dragging something,
it isn't lost.
People use browsers, word processors, games, email client, im
clients etc. The first app that
gets opened makes the desktop disappear.
This was a major
problem with the old desktop. It was almost
always covered (at least here), so it was of limited use.
If the apps don't work what good is the desktop other
than to look pretty but dumb. I do not need my desktop or
apps to be a huge blonde
or female take your pick). I need to get the things done. If
kde developers want to jerk around
they're bored and get things half finished and then say brand
new here it is. This whole process
has been one the least professional processes I have been
through in computing in a very long
time. (Fedora / KDE people notwithstanding in this tirade
as usual do a superb job) then
ignore their user base, well then there will be defection.
Which by the way I am seriously
considering and trust me when I say this i
s painful for me since I have been a loyal and passionate
kde user for years as
Rex can attest.
But enough is enough. If I wanted to install super karamba I
would have installed super karamb
a. Now KDE has pushed it down my throat in the form of
plasmoids the very least they could do is
have the thing work the way it should.
You don't need to
have plasmoids everywhere. I don't. Current
list of active plasmoids:
Battery Monitor (laptop only)
Nothing that the old panel didn't have that is clutter. Having
thing replaceable is great. Now people can get Windows 7-like
taskbars without it being forced down everyone's throats
(stasks isn't for me). New ways of doing things don't need
reworking low-level code. I don't see what isn't working with
them (the dual monitor thing I can see, but I couldn't get it
to work with Kicker back in KDE3 days either).
4.3 is a personal milestone for me. After a tirade like this
one, to be fair I will wait till 4.4
and leave without a whisper (I'm sure some are saying yea!!!
:) ) . KDE either works the way it
should or I will have to go elsewhere.
Everyone has their
limits and you can't please everyone all the
Thanks for Listening :)
I don't use tts. Reading was fun.
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