On Oct 29, 2015 7:01 PM, "Kevin Kofler" <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> wrote:
in recent times, I have been increasingly unable and unwilling to
(co)maintain the huge set of packages known as the KDE Software
(i.e., the union of the KDE Plasma Workspaces, KDE Frameworks and
Applications release sets), which I will refer to as "KDE SC" in this
* unable because:
- the set of packages keeps growing and growing (mainly due to
existing packages). The KDE SC used to be about a dozen packages.
When a new
release came out, it could be updated to manually (without any
one person in about a day. These days, we are talking about
packages. (I am supposedly comaintaining over 300 packages at the
Those packages are impossible to deal with without scripts, and
scripts take hours to run (and require some amount of babysitting
things such as rebasing patches cannot always be automated). The
phenomenon also affects Qt, at a slightly smaller scale. Back in the
felt confident about having a global view on the KDE SC packages.
This is no
longer the case.
- I am having an increasingly hard time keeping up with the latest
that the KDE Project releases. Right now, I am still running
highly unfamiliar with Plasma 5. This means I am out of touch
issues our users are reporting and also have only limited ability to
- big parts of the KDE Plasma Workspaces are now written in QML, a
am also not very familiar with.
- for varying reasons (job, etc.), I have found myself having nowhere
enough time to dedicate to KDE SC packaging lately. I am drowning
bugmail, and have found myself unable to even READ all of it at
alone act on it. The poor quality of KMail 2 (see below) is not
neither will the F23 release that accidentally defaults to ABRT
DrKonqi (see below). I am basically the only true volunteer left
and the time I can invest in Fedora packaging is finite.
* unwilling because:
- the way the Fedora Project has been treating KDE since Fedora 21 (when
"Fedora.Next" was introduced) makes me feel like a second-class
in the Fedora community. After years of fighting for equal
in Fedora, Fedora.Next with its "Fedora is now more
message was a major setback and a huge disappointment. (Another
this evolution is how the PackageKit backend was rewritten with
exact feature set GNOME Software happens to need, leaving Apper
- the evergrowing package set (see above) is making it increasingly
and boring to maintain KDE SC packages.
- the Akonadi/KMail stack has been a huge pain to use, due to major
issues, both performance and reliability issues. Upstream has
unwilling or unable to do anything about the problem, none of the
far really helped in any way. I am unwilling to have anything
with this abomination of software.
- while I have not experienced it personally yet, the quality of KDE
is also reported to be very disappointing; the promise from KDE
that "KDE 5" (as it was referred to at the time) would
rather than a revolutionary release was not followed through.
- the Fedora 23 KDE Spin (which is now final or almost final) is easily
worst KDE Spin we have ever released:
. Firefox, a non-KDE and even non-Qt application, is the default
does not integrate into the Plasma desktop in any way.
. Due to an oversight, DrKonqi is missing, and thus ABRT (another
application) is the default crash handler. ABRT reports all the
us downstream packagers instead of upstream where the crash
belong. And experience has shown that the ABRT fire&forget
unwilling to upstream the bug reports manually, if they even
replies at all (and that's if we even manage to reply to
Both of these are complete no-gos where I have said from day one that
are not acceptable. The Firefox fiasco was a deliberate decision,
fiasco could have been avoided if DrKonqi had not been made
my recommendation, and/or if people had actually tested that the
uses the KDE crash handler. I do not want to be held responsible
decisions I did not approve of.
As a result, I AM HEREBY STEPPING DOWN FROM THE KDE SIG AND FROM
(CO)MAINTAINERSHIP OF KDE SC PACKAGES.
In particular, effective NOW:
* I hereby request to be removed from the group::kde-sig group.
* I will withdraw my comaintainership (including watchbugzilla and
watchcommits!) of Qt and of all packages in the KDE SC, EXCEPT:
- the packages for which I am upstream: kompare, libkomparediff2
- compatibility packages: qt3, kdelibs3, qt(4), kdelibs(4), kdewebdev
* I may also withdraw comaintainership of, or orphan where I am the point
contact, any packages that I am maintaining because the KDE SC
and possibly selected other KDE-related packages.
* I am stepping down from being a voting member in the KDE SIG. I leave
the remaining members to nominate a replacement or reduce the
* I am stepping down as a moderator of the fedora-kde mailing list. I
cleared the moderation flag of the one person I have put on
list moderation is an additional duty that I just do not have time
* I am stepping down as an operator of the #fedora-kde IRC chan. (You
also remove the operator privileges from tigcc_bot. It does not
was only symbolic.)
* I will no longer consider it my duty to attend KDE SIG meetings, though
attend some meetings as an interested user. In particular, I will
lead any meetings and I will not try to herd people into attending
necessity of which has always been annoying me).
I will KEEP (until further notice):
* my Fedora packager status,
* my provenpackager privileges in Fedora,
* my packager sponsor privileges in Fedora,
* (co)maintainership of a reasonable number of packages that I can
scale to (i.e., NOT the current 300-400), including:
- as mentioned above, the Kompare stack and the compatibility packages,
- KDE-related packages outside of the KDE SC (though possibly fewer
- the Calamares installer,
- some non-KDE packages,
* taking care of the compatibility libraries that make existing
work (the Qt3/kdelibs3 stack right now, the Qt4/kdelibs4 stack if
needed) and of legacy applications themselves,
* developing Kannolo (what the Fedora KDE Spin SHOULD be), to which I
able to devote more time than now,
* maintainership of Kompare upstream (for now), unless another maintainer
more time can finally be found,
* using and promoting (to the current extent) Fedora with KDE (be it the
Spin or Kannolo).
I am sorry, but after 8 years of volunteering and ending up with almost
packages to take care of, I just have to scale down. It was fun while
I wish the remaining KDE SIG members good luck for the future.
Thank you very much for all your contributions, we appreciate the time and
effort you put in Fedora KDE, wish you all the best.
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