KDE Telepathy Bonjour account: This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'salut' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'local-xmpp'. Please try installing salut with your package manager.
Hi!
I was trying to setup a Bonjour (local XMPP) account in KDE Plasma System Settings for KDE Telepathy. In `System Settings > Online Accounts > Create`, I clicked "Bonjour" in the list on the right. This action was answered with an error dialogue box: "This IM Account cannot be created - a Telepathy Connection Manager named 'salut' is missing or it cannot handle protocol 'local-xmpp'. Please try installing salut with your package manager." However, `telepathy-salut` is already installed on my machine. Does anyone have an idea how to debug this, or where I would find the actual error message that led to this?
I am using Fedora 27 KDE, with telepathy-salut currently being at version 0.8.1 (release 12.fc27), telepathy-mission control at version 5.16.4 (epoch 1, release 4.fc27) and ktp-accounts-kcm at version 17.12.1(release 1.fc27).
Best regards, Dennis
The issue persists in Fedora 30 (telepathy-salut 0.8.1 release 15.fc29, telepathy-mission-control 5.16.4 epoch 1 release 8.fc30, ktp-accounts-kcm 18.12.2 release 1.fc30).
I was able to create the account using `mc-tool add salut/local-xmpp $USER@$HOST string:first-name=$GIVENNAME string:last-name=$LASTNAME string:email=$EMAIL string:jid=$EMAIL string:published-name=$USER`, but it does not show up in the KDE Online Accounts.
On Mon, 2019-06-03 at 21:47 +0000, Dennis Schridde wrote:
The issue persists in Fedora 30 (telepathy-salut 0.8.1 release 15.fc29, telepathy-mission-control 5.16.4 epoch 1 release 8.fc30, ktp-accounts-kcm 18.12.2 release 1.fc30).
What issue? What are you talking about? The only way to know is by finding your previous message. Please follow long-standing convention and quote the relevant part when you comment. Most people are reading this via the mailing list, not the lame web interface.
poc
Hi Patrick!
Thank you for your reply. I was unaware that using the web-interface of the mailinglists was being frowned upon in Fedora.
I collected the information in a bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1717281 I hope that is more helpful.
Best regards, Dennis
On 05/06/2019 13:41, Dennis Schridde wrote:
Thank you for your reply. I was unaware that using the web-interface of the mailinglists was being frowned upon in Fedora.
It isn't frowned upon except when you don't use the button in the web interface which will quote previous content. That way one doesn't have to go back through emails to find out the full story.
So, folks on the email list will see what you've said and my reply.
On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 05:41 +0000, Dennis Schridde wrote:
Thank you for your reply. I was unaware that using the web-interface of the mailinglists was being frowned upon in Fedora.
It's fine to use it as long as you remember to quote the context. Unfortunately HyperKitty doesn't do this by default, which most people using it seem to forget. This would make sense for a web forum where the previous message is generally visible, but a mailing list is a different communications medium, and IMHO trying to mix them up doesn't seem to be a good idea.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto:
On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 05:41 +0000, Dennis Schridde wrote:
Thank you for your reply. I was unaware that using the web-interface of the mailinglists was being frowned upon in Fedora.
It's fine to use it as long as you remember to quote the context. Unfortunately HyperKitty doesn't do this by default, which most people using it seem to forget. This would make sense for a web forum where the previous message is generally visible, but a mailing list is a different communications medium, and IMHO trying to mix them up doesn't seem to be a good idea.
On the other hand, - the email's subject helps a lot (it's even too chatty) - your email client should be able to properly use threading.
Now, try to answer on the issue in $subject - KDE Telepathy didn't get much love lately. A new maintainer stepped up recently, but then it's difficult to investigate whether this is an upstream or a downstream (packaging?) issue.
PS. I prefer a no-quote than a top-quote, but that my personal preference.
Ciao
On 6/10/19 6:54 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto:
On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 05:41 +0000, Dennis Schridde wrote:
Thank you for your reply. I was unaware that using the web-interface of the mailinglists was being frowned upon in Fedora.
It's fine to use it as long as you remember to quote the context. Unfortunately HyperKitty doesn't do this by default, which most people using it seem to forget. This would make sense for a web forum where the previous message is generally visible, but a mailing list is a different communications medium, and IMHO trying to mix them up doesn't seem to be a good idea.
On the other hand,
- the email's subject helps a lot (it's even too chatty)
- your email client should be able to properly use threading.
As long as you haven't already deleted the previous emails in the threads. :-)
Now, try to answer on the issue in $subject - KDE Telepathy didn't get much love lately. A new maintainer stepped up recently, but then it's difficult to investigate whether this is an upstream or a downstream (packaging?) issue.
PS. I prefer a no-quote than a top-quote, but that my personal preference.
Ciao
On Mon, 2019-06-10 at 11:54 +0200, Luigi Toscano wrote:
- the email's subject helps a lot (it's even too chatty)
In this case perhaps, but very often that simply isn't true. You need the actual context.
- your email client should be able to properly use threading.
It does. That does not relieve the poster from quoting the actual part of the message he's responding to. To argue otherwise is like saying no-one should quote anything in replies.
To be clear, the habit of some posters who just dump the entire (often long) message into their reply is almost as bad.
poc
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