Hi,
I've always used Fedora DVDs (as opposed to the live CDs) for installation as I could install both KDE & GNOME and a slew of other packages without connecting to the internet. I tried F18 beta DVD and found that I could select either KDE or GNOME and not both during installation.
Is this OK from a KDE perspective? I'm a strong KDE user, but I wish to have GNOME installed too. So, what is the recommended way to install both? Should I install KDE desktop from Anaconda and then install GNOME using Yum later? Or should it be the other way round?
So far, Fedora didn't offer any easy way to install more packages from the DVD after installation. The user has to mount the DVD and create a repo file and do some yum command line vodoo for installing stuff off the DVD. What is the recommended action plan for F18?
regards,
Syam
On 12/15/2012 08:17 PM, Sonic wrote:
I'm a strong KDE user, but I wish to have GNOME installed too. So, what is the recommended way to install both? Should I install KDE desktop from Anaconda and then install GNOME using Yum later? Or should it be the other way round?
either way is fine, and the end result of installing either DE, and then doing:
yum install @gnome-desktop @kde-desktop
will be approximately the same.
-- rex
----- Original Message -----
Hi,
I've always used Fedora DVDs (as opposed to the live CDs) for installation as I could install both KDE & GNOME and a slew of other packages without connecting to the internet. I tried F18 beta DVD and found that I could select either KDE or GNOME and not both during installation.
Is this OK from a KDE perspective? I'm a strong KDE user, but I wish to have GNOME installed too. So, what is the recommended way to install both? Should I install KDE desktop from Anaconda and then install GNOME using Yum later? Or should it be the other way round?
So far, Fedora didn't offer any easy way to install more packages from the DVD after installation. The user has to mount the DVD and create a repo file and do some yum command line vodoo for installing stuff off the DVD. What is the recommended action plan for F18?
It's the Installer team's design choice... See bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865922
Jaroslav
regards,
Syam
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Sonic wrote:
I've always used Fedora DVDs (as opposed to the live CDs) for installation as I could install both KDE & GNOME and a slew of other packages without connecting to the internet. I tried F18 beta DVD and found that I could select either KDE or GNOME and not both during installation.
Is this OK from a KDE perspective?
As the KDE SIG, we don't feel strongly about it. We have always recommended installing from the KDE live image (which gets you a KDE-only system too), and IMHO that should still be the recommendation.
Personally, I think this way of presenting things is quite silly, but still, it is an improvement over previous UIs where you had no viable desktop selection at all. (You were able to check the desktops' groups, but all the application groups were defaulting to GNOME apps and GNOME was also checked by default.)
Kevin Kofler
On 12/20/2012 05:21 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
As the KDE SIG, we don't feel strongly about it. We have always recommended installing from the KDE live image (which gets you a KDE-only system too), and IMHO that should still be the recommendation.
Personally, I think this way of presenting things is quite silly, but still, it is an improvement over previous UIs where you had no viable desktop selection at all. (You were able to check the desktops' groups, but all the application groups were defaulting to GNOME apps and GNOME was also checked by default.)
But after one proceeds with the default, how does one install more packages off the DVD? Mairin Duffy says in the bug report (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865922) that Fedora packagekit supported automatically recognizing of install DVD since 2009! I've never found this feature and after this, I installed F18 in a virtual machine and there is no such feature.
As KDE SIG, shouldn't we be concerned about how an ordinary user who selected the *default* DE during install can get KDE from the DVD?
regards,
Syam
Sonic wrote:
As KDE SIG, shouldn't we be concerned about how an ordinary user who selected the *default* DE during install can get KDE from the DVD?
As kevin mentioned, our primary focus and concern is the kde live spin.
My personal opinion that the dvd media's lifetime is limited, and will hopefully simply go away someday (it's usefulness is limited already, and will likely only get worse over time). Energies are better spent elsewhere, imo ymmv, yada yada.
-- rex
Am 20.12.2012 20:34, schrieb Rex Dieter:
Sonic wrote:
As KDE SIG, shouldn't we be concerned about how an ordinary user who selected the *default* DE during install can get KDE from the DVD?
As kevin mentioned, our primary focus and concern is the kde live spin.
My personal opinion that the dvd media's lifetime is limited, and will hopefully simply go away someday (it's usefulness is limited already, and will likely only get worse over time)
not as long as with live-media you can not setup such things currently it is more or less "blow the live-setup to disk"
it is painfully enough get a useful partition layout with anaconda because the braindead "i do not care about your order"
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/md1 ext4 29G 7.0G 22G 25% / /dev/md0 ext4 485M 49M 437M 10% /boot /dev/md2 ext4 3.6T 1.6T 2.1T 44% /mnt/data
* /dev/md0 = RAID1 over 4 disks * /dev/md1 = RADI10 over 4 disks * /dev/md2 = RAID10 over 4 disks
for workstations with real workloads i would never ever setup single disks because failover AND performance