Hi,
1. How can I get Kickoff straight to the left side, so that i can drop my mouse there and blindly click the blue 'back-button'? Now there is a little space between the button and the left edge.
2. When I open applications, they always appear is some ordered way on the panel. In my case from left to right: Dolphin, Firefox, Kmail, Konsole. It doesn't matter which applications is started first. Can I manipulate this behavior?
3. In Kontact -> File there are two menu-items "Quit". Is there a purpose for this? They seems to do the same.
I'm not sure if these questions belong to this list. If not can someone point me to the right place.
Thanks,
Martin
On Monday 19 January 2009 15:30:35 Martin Kho wrote:
Hi,
- How can I get Kickoff straight to the left side, so that i can drop my
mouse there and blindly click the blue 'back-button'? Now there is a little space between the button and the left edge.
See question 2 :-)
- When I open applications, they always appear is some ordered way on
the panel. In my case from left to right: Dolphin, Firefox, Kmail, Konsole. It doesn't matter which applications is started first. Can I manipulate this behavior?
They are, apparently, in alphabetical order. Do you normally quit and boot up with those applications open? It will always try to resume a session with open applications, and I believe alphabetical order is the default. I normally close all apps except konversation when I quit, so konversation is the only one that starts automatically, and the others appear on the task bar in the order that I open them.
All other icons, of course, can be positioned where you want them (including the Kickoff button). You'll find a description of that at http://userbase.kde.org/Configure_your_desktop#Rearrange_your_Panel
Aside - if you haven't seen it, it's also worth visiting http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/File_Management for lots of info about dolphin.
- In Kontact -> File there are two menu-items "Quit". Is there a purpose
for this? They seems to do the same.
I've never seen two. I've no idea on that one, I'm afraid.
I'm not sure if these questions belong to this list. If not can someone point me to the right place.
They're not Fedora-specific, but that's not a problem. If you use Fedora this is a natural place to ask questions.
Anne
On Monday 19 January 2009 17:24:24 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 19 January 2009 15:30:35 Martin Kho wrote:
Hi,
- How can I get Kickoff straight to the left side, so that i can drop my
mouse there and blindly click the blue 'back-button'? Now there is a little space between the button and the left edge.
See question 2 :-)
- When I open applications, they always appear is some ordered way on
the panel. In my case from left to right: Dolphin, Firefox, Kmail, Konsole. It doesn't matter which applications is started first. Can I manipulate this behavior?
They are, apparently, in alphabetical order. Do you normally quit and boot up with those applications open?
No, I always cleanup everything before I leave my desk(top) :-)
It will always try to resume a session with open applications, and I believe alphabetical order is the default. I normally close all apps except konversation when I quit, so konversation is the only one that starts automatically, and the others appear on the task bar in the order that I open them.
All other icons, of course, can be positioned where you want them (including the Kickoff button). You'll find a description of that at http://userbase.kde.org/Configure_your_desktop#Rearrange_your_Panel
Aside - if you haven't seen it, it's also worth visiting http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/File_Management for lots of info about dolphin.
Thanks, for the links.
- In Kontact -> File there are two menu-items "Quit". Is there a purpose
for this? They seems to do the same.
I've never seen two. I've no idea on that one, I'm afraid.
I'm not sure if these questions belong to this list. If not can someone point me to the right place.
They're not Fedora-specific, but that's not a problem. If you use Fedora this is a natural place to ask questions.
Anne
Ah yes, forgot to mention. I use F10 + Fedora-KDE (up to date)
P.S. In Kmail the message "[<time>] Transmission for account <account> complete x new messages" is wrapped. Anyone have seen this?
Martin.
On Monday 19 January 2009 17:24:24 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 19 January 2009 15:30:35 Martin Kho wrote:
Hi,
- How can I get Kickoff straight to the left side, so that i can drop
my mouse there and blindly click the blue 'back-button'? Now there is a little space between the button and the left edge.
See question 2 :-)
My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
- When I open applications, they always appear is some ordered way on
the panel. In my case from left to right: Dolphin, Firefox, Kmail, Konsole. It doesn't matter which applications is started first. Can I manipulate this behavior?
They are, apparently, in alphabetical order. Do you normally quit and boot up with those applications open?
After some clicking - left and right button - on the panel I found the solution. In the latest kde version right clicking on the taskbar - the part where opened applications are - the task manager gives you a lot more options then in the previous version. Here you can choose - besides 'alphabetic' - Don't sort, Manual and Desktop.
No, I always cleanup everything before I leave my desk(top) :-)
It will always try to resume a session with open applications, and I believe alphabetical order is the default. I normally close all apps except konversation when I quit, so konversation is the only one that starts automatically, and the others appear on the task bar in the order that I open them.
All other icons, of course, can be positioned where you want them (including the Kickoff button). You'll find a description of that at http://userbase.kde.org/Configure_your_desktop#Rearrange_your_Panel
Aside - if you haven't seen it, it's also worth visiting http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/File_Management for lots of info about dolphin.
Thanks, for the links.
Lots of valuable info!
- In Kontact -> File there are two menu-items "Quit". Is there a
purpose for this? They seems to do the same.
I've never seen two. I've no idea on that one, I'm afraid.
I'm not sure if these questions belong to this list. If not can someone point me to the right place.
They're not Fedora-specific, but that's not a problem. If you use Fedora this is a natural place to ask questions.
Anne
Ah yes, forgot to mention. I use F10 + Fedora-KDE (up to date)
P.S. In Kmail the message "[<time>] Transmission for account <account> complete x new messages" is wrapped. Anyone have seen this?
Martin.
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Martin Kho wrote:
My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
That sounds like a 4.2 regression, you should probably report it to https://bugs.kde.org .
Kevin Kofler
Martin Kho wrote:
My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
That sounds like a 4.2 regression, you should probably report it to https://bugs.kde.org .
Kevin Kofler
Seems related to bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158675
Martin Kho
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On Tuesday 20 January 2009 00:38:35 Martin Kho wrote:
My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
I have 4.1.96-1.fc10.i386. Clicking anywhere on the blue panel takes me back as expected - even taking it as low as I can. There is a tiny (2px-wide?) white border between the blue and the black icon-backgrounds. However, I couldn't persuade my mouse pointer to click there at all, as it always tried to activate the Favourites tab. Nor do I have anything that I recognise as "space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu". Sorry, I can't reproduce your problem at all. Perhaps a screenshot of the menu would help, so that we can see this space?
Anne
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Anne Wilson cannewilson@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 00:38:35 Martin Kho wrote:
My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
I have 4.1.96-1.fc10.i386. Clicking anywhere on the blue panel takes me back as expected - even taking it as low as I can. There is a tiny (2px-wide?) white border between the blue and the black icon-backgrounds. However, I couldn't persuade my mouse pointer to click there at all, as it always tried to activate the Favourites tab. Nor do I have anything that I recognise as "space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu". Sorry, I can't reproduce your problem at all. Perhaps a screenshot of the menu would help, so that we can see this space?
Anne
I have version: 4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64. In the screenshot below you can see the space between the blue 'back-buttonbar' and the left *screen* edge (see red arrow). May be it wasn't clear I meant the left screen edge. Btw. Anne, did you see the bugreport at kde: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158675. Especially Carsten Wolff's comment.
Martin
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On Tuesday 20 January 2009 15:47:49 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Anne Wilson cannewilson@googlemail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 00:38:35 Martin Kho wrote:
My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem' has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
I have 4.1.96-1.fc10.i386. Clicking anywhere on the blue panel takes me back as expected - even taking it as low as I can. There is a tiny (2px-wide?) white border between the blue and the black icon-backgrounds. However, I couldn't persuade my mouse pointer to click there at all, as it always tried to activate the Favourites tab. Nor do I have anything that I recognise as "space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu". Sorry, I can't reproduce your problem at all. Perhaps a screenshot of the menu would help, so that we can see this space?
Anne
I have version: 4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64. In the screenshot below you can see the space between the blue 'back-buttonbar' and the left *screen* edge (see red arrow). May be it wasn't clear I meant the left screen edge.
Yes, it was clear enough, but it took a screenshot before I really understood what you meant. Looking at mine, it seems to be a rather strong frame to the widget, nothing more, so what we really need is the ability to have the widget with or without a frame, as you can with the picture-frame.
Btw. Anne, did you see the bugreport at kde: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158675. Especially Carsten Wolff's comment.
I use a full-width panel, so I've never seen the problem described there.
It's odd how some things are so important to working practices for some users, yet irrelevant to others. I hadn't even noticed the frame until you pointed it out to me. I thought I was the world's worst mouse-user, yet it had never caused me a problem :-) Still, I'd guess that asking for the frame to be optional might be your best bet.
Anne