I would like to suggest that for Fedora 24, rsyslog be removed from the "KDE Plasma
Workspaces" installation group. While a system logger is needed for any workspace, I
don't think that having this package as part of the group is a good idea.
I installed Fedora 23 as a Gnome system. I have then overlaid Cinnamon and KDE onto it so
that I can experiment with all of these options. When I went to install KDE Plasma
Workspaces, it wanted to install rsyslog as part of the group. Problem is that I had
syslog-ng installed, rsyslog conflicts with syslog-ng, and I very much prefer syslog-ng.
So I had to figure out a way around the problem. Eventually I was able to install Plasma
by picking out a few key packages and installing them with their dependencies.
This procedure of installing KDE would have been quite a bit easier if I didn't have
to work around the rsyslog conflict. Hence my suggestion for dropping that from the
When I executed the dnf command to install the KDE Plasma Workspaces group, it wanted to
pull in rsyslog.
Looking back at my dnf logs, installing "kde-desktop-environment" tried to pull
in rsyslog. On further inspection, it looks like kde-desktop-environment needs the
mandatory "Standard" group, of which rsyslog is a mandatory element.
So you are right, rsyslog is not in any direct kde comps group. The issue is more that
rsyslog is mandatory for the Standard group, where my ideal situation would be that some
system logger is a mandatory part of Standard, but not rsyslog per se.
I will reconsider my approach here.
How about the equivalent of the Gnome Tweaks? I use a weather app that give me what I
need to see. I get an update with one click.
There are other apps that would move the favourites to the top/bottom panel. One click
less to activate an application, when you look at a days work on the computer, is worth
the enhancements (personal tweaks)
Different users would activate/install different tweaks.
Mr. Leslie Satenstein
Montréal Québec, Canada