We should comment this and answer.
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Subject: Re: website mockups, what is fedora?
Date: Monday 24 August 2009
From: Máirín Duffy <mairin(a)linuxgrrl.com>
To: fedora-advisory-board(a)redhat.com
I just wanted to bump this because I would love to see a response to
this...
Also note I'm currently running an informal survey about when/why - how
- what users download to help inform this. But I need to hear from KDE
folks too so I can understand your goals.
~m
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 22:33 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
KDE folks, please tell me HOW not having a link to the KDE spin on
the
main download page is going to hurt you. Please. Tell me the problems it
will cause that I need to solve and I am sure they can be solved in
other and potentially better ways.
I cannot solve the problems it will cause you in my designs if I do not
know what they are. I have tried to tell you in many different ways why
the link has been removed - along with 20 other links - because we are
targeting a new class of users.
Tell me what you really want - what are the KDE spin's goals?
- Do you want to grow users of Fedora KDE? What users are you looking to
attract? How do they differ from the target users of the Desktop spin?
How would you market to them?
- Do you simply want KDE to be recognized as an important part of the
Fedora project? There are many, many, many potential ways of doing that,
that do not involve the 'Get Fedora' page at all.
- Do you just want KDE to be easy to find for the experienced KDE users
that know what they're doing? There must be modifications we could do to
address this case.
I'm trying to reverse-engineer your intentions. But I have NO CLUE what
it is you're wanting. My blog has been flooded with complaints that
there is no KDE link, and I've even been subject to rather harsh and
unfair berating in IRC over this. Let's fix this by talking about your
goals and your concerns about the problems this change is going to cause
rather than demanding via multiple forms of communication that it should
be added back without rationale.
No matter how many times I repeat it I do not think it is going to
change - adding a KDE link to that page not only completely goes against
the requirement of having one main default download on the page, but it
really also goes against my professional opinion as a designer as what
is best for making a page that will attract the types of users that the
Board has told me they would like to make a try at.
So please tell me what problems removing that link is going to cause
you, and please tell me what your goals as a project are. I will do my
very best to come up with something that you can at least be amenable to
(and I am hoping you would rather be delighted with it), I have
absolutely nothing against you and anytime I've needed help with
something KDE, KDE SIG members have been extremely responsive and
helpful. So, please don't take this or make this personal. Help me and
you have a right to complain if you don't like the results.
If the goal is to 'show KDE as a prominent and valued member of the
Fedora community', again, there are far better ways of doing that than
cluttering up the main download page. For real. Fedora KDE is not just
an ISO file. Fedora KDE is a SIG, Fedora KDE is a community, Fedora KDE
is a group of really cool (well at least not when they're berating me in
IRC ;-) ) and smart people who put out one of the best versions of KDE
for a distro out there. So why do you sell all of Fedora KDE short by
considering it just to be an ISO file?
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