On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Orion Poplawski <orion@cora.nwra.com> wrote:
However, it will
be good to get plasma 5 out there and tested and fixed so that when F23 comes
out hopefully it will be usable.  Meanwhile I think we'll happily stay on F21.

Yes, agreed... at some point you have to take the leap and go to production in order
to iron out remaining issues.  Testing can only take you so far,  and people all test different
things.  Each time you open up to a larger group of people new issues arise.  I think this
group is an extremely valuable resource.  If issues aren't reported, they cannot be addressed.

One thing to keep in mind, when you can verify something is an issue, open a bug 
report and search upstream to see if it has been reported there.  If not, open an issue 
upstream and reference that back to the bugzilla ticket.  This helps track issues.

I believe this all makes a difference.  People may get defensive, and at times the banter 
gets a bit snarky; but all participating share the common goal of making Fedora a
better product for everyone.