On Dec 13, 2015 9:15 PM, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
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> Am 13.12.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Mustafa Muhammad:
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>> On Dec 13, 2015 8:58 PM, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@thelounge.net
>> <mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net>> wrote:
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>>  > Am 13.12.2015 um 18:52 schrieb Mustafa Muhammad:
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>>  >> On Dec 13, 2015 7:59 PM, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@thelounge.net
>> <mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net>
>>  >> <mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net <mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net>>> wrote:
>>  >>  > why would someone reboot because a KDE update instead logout/login?
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>>  >> Because it's fast enough, you don't need to kill everything instead of
>>  >> waiting 30-60 seconds for a reboot,
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>>  > nonsense - why should i wait 30-60 seconds when i just need to
>> restart my graphical session?
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>>  >> especially given that Fedora updates
>>  >> major components (kernel libc, X, etc.) often so you better reboot
>> anyway
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>>  > "reboot anyway" is nonsense - you reboot *when* that major compoents
>> got updated and not because something else - this is *not* windows
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>>  > X is fure sure *none* of them because restarting the displaymanager
>> also restarts X and before sddm with it's 3 processes arrived you needed
>> nothing to do at all
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>> Because for most people who don't check the entire list of updated
>> packages, it is faster than searching for kernel or glibc or systemd or
>> whatever else in the list
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> because fools don't check the list of *already updated* packages while they should check it *before* to get an idea of the possible impact we talk about a Linux system as it would be Microsoft Windows?
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> seriously?
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> do what you want but please avoid on a public list to sound like Linux needs a reboot every time you touch it
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You should not call normal users fools, they trust their system and its maintainers, not every user knows the packages and their purpose.
kernel, systemd, and others needs reboot to activate the newer versions, and if some user who doesn't know what glibc trusted the package maintainers and updated everything, he is not a fool.

> in fact as long as you don#t have network aware services it don't matter that a view background processes have loaded a older library and with logout/login you kill any process actively used by your session
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