On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Eric Griffith <egriffith92(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That's a separate debate in and of itself...
Well, actually it's not... especially since people keep citing it as the
reason for the change. My opinion is that if you install the KDE spin, you
should get the KDE browser. If you find you don't like it, you can install
something else; just as you'd have to install Lame, Flash or any of the
other things you may find you want, but aren't included in the
distribution. If you can figure out how to add Flash to Firefox, you
certainly can figure out how to install Firefox.
Personally I believe that pre-put-together (not Arch, not Gentoo, not
distros exist solely for end user experience.. Otherwise why bother? Truly,
if the end user experience does not matter in decision-making then what do
we (Fedora as a whole) offer over Arch or Gentoo or LFS?
First of all, I didn't say that the end-user experience "does not
I stated: "There is more to decisions than "end-user" experience."
Also, there is more to "end-user" experience than simply "does my Youtube
videos play". If that was all you were concerned about you'd use
Ubuntu or for that matter Apple or Windows.
Now just to clarify: This message isn't a "screw
Fedora" message. This
isn't a "the apocalypse is now" message. This is a genuine question. What
is Fedora's niche? How much do we value end user experience? And what are
we as a project aiming for?
That can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview
We can talk all day and night about Free Software Ideals but we all
that the majority of our users do not care, at all. They want to play DVD's
and listen to music and watch videos. The end user experience is their top
Then they shouldn't be running Fedora.
I understand that Fedora can't ship mp3 playback or libdvdcss
US laws-- perfectly fine, no problem. The laws are the laws, even if they
suck. But what about the things we CAN change for the sake of user
experience? Where does the line get drawn and why is it drawn where it is?
You can see where the line is here: