Hi all, this hating thread about Plasma 5.3 and Fedora 22 is getting "intense" and mail-consuming.

I am just  an IT/CS student, but Fedora 22 with Plasma 5.3 made  me switch to this distro coming from Ubuntu  and even when it's not perfect, now  i am trying to make it better by testing the upgrade from F22 to F23 in my  second laptop.

Plasma can only get better and F23/Plasma 5.4 won't disappoint, we  just  need to be patient cause Plasma is expected to be ready for Long Time Support by the 5.6 release un April

El sept. 15, 2015 11:55 PM, "Eli Wapniarski" <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org> escribió:
Oh... I am trully sick and tired about hearing that something in KDE does not
work because of buggy drivers

The kernel iteration for f22 and f21 are the same. My interface works just fine
in F21 and KDE4 my konsole shows the way its supposed to. It works just fine in
f22 and gnome console works just fine in Cinamon and F22. So the problem isn't
the drivers and if it is KDE5 banging up against driver functionality so what?
I still can't use KDE5.


On Wednesday 16 September 2015 07:49:52 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> So Kevin
>
> And with all due respect to the great effort that the KDE Packaging Team
> puts into each release, what is going to be done about it?
>
> 99% of us agree that KDE 5 is not nice to work with. We are totally
> dependant on upstream to include and fix functionality and features and as
> usual, they do not seem to be very responsive to user needs. Debates
> regarding KDE5 degenerate into cursing, name calling and trash talk.
>
> You guys are our frontline of communication and you keep getting hammered.
> So again... what is going to be done about this?
>
> Please let us know if you the packagers and us the users are supposed to
> throw our hands into the air and surrender and move back to Windows or
> migrate or what? I will not use KDE5 the interface sucks worse than gnome,
> I will not use gnome cause I hate it.... I hate MS and Windows for other
> reasons. But at least, after I hold my nose and deal with the horrible
> short comings of the OS the interface is consistent and useable.
>
> Where exactly are we going?
>
> Eli
>
> On Wednesday 16 September 2015 01:14:43 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Reindl Harald wrote:
> > > well, we both know us in person and talked about the fallout of
> > > KDE3->KDE4 some years ago - IMHO you realized that i am not a ignorant
> > > asshole but have some favour for quality and zero understanding when
> > > someone sells me broken software as improvment :-)
> >
> > Rest assured that I consider all your complaints valid and that I'm also
> > extremely unhappy about the fallout (which I blame on upstream KDE and Qt
> > in this case).
> >
> >         Kevin Kofler
> >
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