On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM, P. Gueckel <pgueckel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > I find myself wondering if other people are really
> > using Plasma 5 as a "daily driver"...
> It's a totally different world where I live :-) I've
> been using Plasma 5 since the beta was released.
> Excellent experience!
> Konsole size? Is it that much of a problem to size it?
> ;-) I haven't given this a try, so I don't know
> whether my system(s) is/are affected.
> I don't mean to discredit your/others' experience(s),
> but it seems to me that a lot of people are nitpicking
> about a lot of insignificant stuff. Oops! Did I say
> that? :-O I guess if it's important to you ;-) but I
> think we need to keep in mind that it's a work in
> progress and the required functionality is all there.
> I've never been a big fan of all the widgets anyway,
> just a lot of clutter on the desktop and in the system
> try. I guess for some of you it is important ;-)
Oh, I totally agree, by both my hands. We are just watching how GUI
suppresses minds. I find this dangerous.
My numbers: +7(916)585-5548, +7(925)129-1220
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For those happy with the simple and space-efficient Fusion Qt5 widget
style, I found that there is actually also a Qt4 port which works really
well. I've packaged it - if anyone cares, the (dead simple) package up
for review is here:
A new feature in F23 is limited support for Google Drive in Nautilus.
You have to authenticate (once) with Google Online Accounts and then
can upload or download files by dragging. It's limited in that it's not
really usable as a mounted filesystem and isn't synced (basically
because GD still doesn't have an official Linux client), but still.
My question is whether anyone is working on a Dolphin equivalent. I did
try Nautilus under KDE but it crashed after a while and doesn't seem to
be very stable at the moment.
are there any plans to get lancelot back as alternative to kicker
because after using it for many years kicker is still a huge step
backwards and i would even go so far calling it unuseable
* it's way to small and not resizeable
* it don't remember the submenu previously opened
well, having "remote conntections -> company -> vnc -> machine1/2/3..."
and start 5 VNC session from there - with lancelot you just clicked
again on the menu icon and the section was still open, 2 clicks instead
5 for each action and additionally when you where fast enough you even
managed start 2-3 applications from the same menu before lancelot closed
the first time at all
and no - favorites don't scale at all, especially not when you have a
large screen and the kicker menu don't use the space
well, that sounds more like theory as long lancelot is not available for
Plasma 5 while it should have replaced kicker long ago as default
> plasma 5 is making it easier to switch widgets. I
> would cite the example of the default application
> launcher. I am not a huge fan of it; I prefer
> Lancelot launcher. It is now easier to switch between
> Kicker or Lancelot launcher. Panels in Plasma 5 makes it ever easier
> to switch that particular widget (if alternatives
> are installed) instead of having to search for it. There are many
> reasons why I preferred Lancelot over Kicker, but developers have
> made significant improvements to Kicker and I will be interested in
> testing it out.
Sorry to rant again but without thinking I started up Kate (which I use
all the time) and it /still/ won't print right. After wasting reams of
paper, the formatting was all wrong (not as it is on the screen). Again,
this hasn't been pushed out to the fedora packages.
I go and see if there's an update to KDE that would incorporate this bug
fix, and DNF fails ... FAILS every time. LIBCURL screws up on FTP
transfers and this /hasn't/ been fixed.
I am pissed off, and I am done. Using fedora gets in the way of my
productivity. This weekend I am switching. I haven't done it sooner
because I am just too busy, which makes me more frustrated when I run
into little issues over and over again like this.
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Ian Pilcher wrote:
> With Fedora 21 about to reach its end of life, I'm trying to set up
> Plasma 5 on Fedora 23, and it's proving to be ... challenging.
> Here are the significant issues I've encountered in my first day or so
> of working on this. Workarounds for any of these would be appreciated.
> * No desktop on 2nd display - This occurs the first time that I log in
> after every reboot. My second display is black; no wallpaper is
> displayed, and mouse clicks have no effect, although it is possible
> to move windows to the 2nd display. Logging out and logging back in
> makes the desktop display properly on the 2nd display.
Switching between 1 or 2 displays is annoying, but workaround is easy (at
least in my case). Just do:
and it gets fixed
I've seen this the last couple of days.
I tried "dnf clean all" so I'm hoping it's not only me that is seeing it.
$ sudo dnf check-update
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'kde' from 'http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/mirrors-stable': Yum repo downloading error: Downloading error(s): repodata/1f4acba3fafb083b694b9f419a865b4233f185b41af1080c187510a7812f082f-filelists.xml.gz - Cannot download, all mirrors were already tried without success; repodata/c1c509717ea61f9763a546c646ab29ee637f84a49cbab629e6ec430069872444-primary.xml.gz - Cannot download, all mirrors were already tried without success, disabling.
I also suspect the most recent updates broke my nm vpnc connections.
NetworkManager: <error> [1447107345.368818] [vpn-manager/nm-vpn-connection.c:1980] get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #3: (4) No agents were available for this request.
Worked the day before (I use it every day) but not since.
Hoping these are known issues.
> I haven't particularly minded the cashew here, especially after they
> changed it to fade out unless hovered over, but I never really understood
> why they insisted on it remaining for those really bothered by it, when
> its functionality was available elsewhere. So reading that there's an
> option to turn it off in plasma5 is good news, and given the option, I
> probably will as well.
kde-plasma-ihatethecashew does wonders on Plasma 4. :-)
> Of course, as you somewhat implied, one person's insignificant nitpick is
> someone else's absolutely critical feature, as the kde devs found out all
> too well in the kde3 -> kde4 upgrade. Thankfully, they're being less
> forceful about dropping support for what actually works in favor of new
> but broken stuff, this time around. If distros are forcing upgrades,
> that's on them and for me anyway could be a reason to switch distro, but
> at least the kde folks are being a bit more understanding about people's
> absolutely critical features, this time around, and continuing to provide
> at least minimal/security upgrades somewhat longer, for those who find
> their absolutely critical features are simply broken in the new version,
> and who thus need to wait awhile until they're either fixed or worst-case
> dropped as features entirely, so they know they have to find alternatives.
KDE upstream is actually no longer shipping any updates to kde-workspace
4.x, they even locked the repository to prevent everybody from committing
any fixes to it.