On Tuesday 27 January 2009 20:05:16 Anne Wilson wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu>
> Date: 2009/1/27
> Subject: Re: what is stable?
> To: KDE on Fedora discussion <fedora-kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > If you mean that KDE 4.3 and KDE 4.4 final will not be stable
> I think what *I* can boil-down from this conversation is varying
> degrees, definitions, interpretations of what it means to be:
> * usable
> * stable
> * releasable
> I'd welcome a conversation to be able to be able to (as much as
> possible) clearly define what we (fedora) consider these to be, so that
> when any such future confusion arises, we can point to the bright neon
> sign (wiki page?) outlining such.
Someone has to kick off :-)
In my eyes, an application is stable if it doesn't crash or do other
A distribution is stable if it has only packages that have been tried and
tested over a very long period, which inevitably means that it will not have
the latest and greatest, and intends making only the minimum of changes to
I did a yum update yesterday, re-enabled the binary nvidia driver
on my Mac Pro (for testing..), and now, I get a xdialog on
startup that ksmserver had an error, and when I try to run
ksmserver by hand, I get a dbus error.
I don't mean to be antagonistic, but when is Konqueror going to become a
real browser, one that will handle ALL websites, one that does SSL,
I've been using Konqueror since 2002 and there are always a number of
websites that it won't handle. I love a lot of things about Konqueror
and I use it as my primary browser, but I am continually right clicking
"Open with..." to reopen pages with Firefox.
Its almost laughable that Konqueror is/has been like this. If I had to
point to one thing that would make my KDE experience better, it would be
fixing Konqueror so that it worked with all web pages, period.
Why is has Konqueror been like this ? Why hasn't Konqueror "matured" in
the last 6 years ?
I've been too busy to test any of the recent KDE 4.2 live releases.
Something that has been troublesome in previous releases is playing CDs
on KsCD. How is it working in KDE 4.2 ?
I know that KsCD is a minor application in the scheme of things but its
like Konqueror in that its had issues on and off forever. I wouldn't
ask about it except my gf uses my laptop from time to time and she wants
to listen to CDs while she does. It makes Linux look bad that she can't
when it doesn't work.
This had happened to me once in the past, with two different versions
of KDE (3.4.x) and Gnome (?). But I could never reproduce it.
It just started happening again (3 times in the past week).
There is no obvious action to trigger this event. It can happen while
I am browsing the web or while my computer is idle for a couple hours.
The KDE desktop just vanishes. The panel stays, but the desktop turns
to Gnome. Today something of the strangest happened. Half of the
screen turned to Gnome, the other half remained KDE.
My panels are (and hence the plasma is) still active. The panel on the
left is auto-hiding so it is not visible in the pictures below, but
that one works too when I bring the mouse pointer to the left side of
Here are two screenshots:
On this one I took the screenshot while I right-clicked on the Gnome
part of my desktop:
whereas on this one I right-click on the KDE part of the desktop:
I am mainly using KDE and switch to Gnome once every couple months
(just for the fun of it). Currently I have
I am not sure where to report this bug. Is this a Gnome bug or a KDE
bug or is it something else?
This will probably be my candidate for the weirdest Linux bug ever.
I just performed a yum update which installed a new kernel and more
importantly a new kmod-nvidia. For the FIRST TIME since I installed F10
when it was released, I have a working folderview ! Finally. What a
Please don't comment about how its a closed source driver, etc. We all
know that. The thing is that it finally works. I am a very happy man.
Kudos to whomever participated in making this happen.
When I attempt to update my system, I get the following error:
6:kdelibs-4.2.0-3.fc10.x86_64 from kde-testing has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: qt4(x86-64) >= 4.4.3 is needed by package
Error: Missing Dependency: qt4(x86-64) >= 4.4.3 is needed by package
However my installed qt appears to be fine:
Any ideas what could be wrong?
Rex and KDE Packaging Team
Great job with 4.2. Installed smooth as silk on x86_64 and i386.
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Oh, and we've got a fresh kde-4.2.0 live image spun,
Still unofficial, of course, until these bits land officially in fedora
(That said, all the kde-4.2-related builds atm @ kde-redhat are those
pulled from fedora's buildsys)