Well, it's neither technical nor policy problem - it's resources problem. There is no policy stating that there can be only OpenJDK8. As soon as people join in with the ongoing maintenance of both upstream and downstream OpenJDK 7 the problem would be solved.----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher" <ctubbsii-fedora@apache.org>
> To: "Sudhir Khanger" <ml@sudhirkhanger.com>
> Cc: "Fedora Java Development List" <java-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 6:43:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [fedora-java] Eclipse Luna on Fedora 21 and JDK 8 requirement
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Sudhir Khanger < ml@sudhirkhanger.com >
> wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Christopher < ctubbsii-fedora@apache.org >
> wrote:
> > to warrant the pursuit of -target 1.7 in its build
>
> Would it have caused technical problems to have included both 1.7 or
> 1.8 as targets?
>
>
> Either I'm not understanding you, or you're not understanding the problem.
> F21 could have built as -target 1.7 and run on the provided Java 8 JVM, but
> also could have run under a user-specified Java 7 JVM (assuming there
> weren't any bootstrap classpath problems that would have prevented such a
> build, which there are... but it may not matter for Eclipse and its
> dependencies). I can't imagine there would be any reason to build Eclipse
> for both, unless Eclipse itself has some internal restriction that prevents
> it from building projects using Java 8, when itself was built with Java 7.
> The fact that there isn't a 1.7 JDK to build against properly, to address
> the bootstrap classpath problem, is not a technical problem, so much as a
> policy that prevented OpenJDK7 from being packaged alongside OpenJDK8 in
> F21.
>
> Even if you could build Eclipse targetted for 1.7, I'm not sure there's any
> point, except to support running an older JRE that the user manually
> downloaded. I'm not sure it should be a goal that Fedora's packages be built
> to run on top of VMs that are older than the ones provided... that seems
> nonsensical. Developing *for* those older VMs, sure, but not running the
> build tools, like Eclipse, on them. It just seems like a completely
> pointless endeavor.
Well, I think this is perfectly doable now. Install your own Java 7, add it as Installe JRE, target it with your project. Is there something I miss ?
Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team
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