On 21 Nov 2018, at 15:17, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 3:03 PM Tim Coote <tim+fedoraproject.org@coote.org> wrote:

As requested. Bug filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1652093

Thanks Tim. To me at least it seems somewhat intermittent. I applied the update and reboot and didn't have wireless, I think shut down the system and re-plugged the power and it now has WiFi. I've seen this on a few other RPi3 series with differing results. It appears to be very intermittent which is annoying.

Peter

A power cycle did get wlan0 up and running. In my experience, this is just the way that working with h/w pans out. I don’t know what the quality of the driver specs is for rpi, but I’m sure that it’s better than the specifications for sensors/actuators based on the 100+ short range network protocols.

Unfortunately, this means that while we’re used to and understand the value of test automation, it’s much harder with pretty much any hardware that’s not been through the cycle of demonstating the need for s/w controlled setup. What’s worse, I’ve also found devices in the field that behave differently from those seen elsewhere, so you need to extend the test models to production :-(

tim