15:03 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting Role
Call! Who's here?
15:04 < ivazquez> Pong.
15:04 * bpepple sits in the peanut gallery.
15:04 * jeremy
15:04 * nirik is in the cheap seats in the back.
15:04 * skvidal is here
15:04 < frankc> * frank
15:04 * mmcgrath
15:04 * lmacken
15:04 < jcollie> yo
15:04 -!- MrBawb [i=abob(a)guppy.drown.org] has joined #fedora-meeting
15:05 * abadger1999 is here
15:06 < abadger1999> Hey MrBawb, just in time!
15:06 < MrBawb> hooray!
15:06 < mmcgrath> ok, lets get started.
15:07 * couf somewhat
15:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
15:08 < mmcgrath> .tiny
15:08 < mmcgrathbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6
15:08 -!- loupgaroublond [n=yankee(a)pool-71-182-186-246.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined
15:09 < mmcgrath> .tickety 192
15:09 < mmcgrath> .ticket 192
15:09 < mmcgrathbot> mmcgrath: #192 (Netapp low on free space) - Fedora
Infrastructure - Trac -
15:10 < mmcgrath> So we've added some space from the netapp that we recently
discovered, a tiny amount in compared what we're using.
15:11 < jcollie> so did i hear right that a new netapp is on order?
15:11 < mmcgrath> jcollie: its in the process of being ordered.
15:11 < mmcgrath> I just informed our RH people where to ship it.
15:12 < MrBawb> feel free to say no way, but what about non-netapp storage?
15:12 < mmcgrath> actually we didn't order an additional netapp this time
15:12 < mmcgrath> its just a disk tray from Dell with around 10T of storage.
15:12 < MrBawb> ah
15:12 < mmcgrath> and its going to be dedicated to the build system.
15:12 < mmcgrath> any other questions on that?
15:13 * mmcgrath is hoping for delivery sometime in the next 2 weeks but with christmas
and such its hard to say.
15:13 < mmcgrath> ok, next ticket.
15:13 < mmcgrath> .tiny 270
15:13 < mmcgrathbot> mmcgrath: Error: '270' is not a valid url.
15:13 < mmcgrath> crap
15:13 < mmcgrath> .ticket 270
15:13 < mmcgrathbot> mmcgrath: #270 (Fedora Wiki allows editing raw HTML) - Fedora
Infrastructure - Trac -
15:13 < mmcgrath> ricky: ping?
15:13 < dgilmore> soory im late
15:14 < dgilmore> sorry even
15:14 * mmcgrath thinks ricky isn't around right now.
15:14 < mmcgrath> thats fine we'll move on
15:14 < mmcgrath> .ticket 283
15:14 < mmcgrathbot> mmcgrath: #283 (Vote: Support Monotone?) - Fedora
Infrastructure - Trac -
15:14 < mmcgrath> So we've had the conversation on the mailing list.
15:15 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions with this from this last week?
15:15 < jcollie> so is roland opposed to converting to git/hg/bzr?
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15:15 < mmcgrath> Just a reminder is whether or not to support monotone which would
also get elfutils on fedorahosted.
15:15 < mmcgrath> Which is good, but supporting all scm's under the sun is bad.
15:15 < mmcgrath> jcollie: yeah, he's opposed to everything that is not
15:16 < mmcgrath> So I'll give a 5 minute vote, +1 for, -1 against +0 not voting
and -NEEDMOREINFO to prefer to wait till next week.
15:17 < dgilmore> I kinda think we should support monotone to get elfutils
completely out of the closet
15:17 < mmcgrath> ============== Voteing begins now ===========
15:17 < dgilmore> +1
15:17 < jcollie> +1
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15:17 < lmacken> +1
15:17 < ivazquez> I'm not a fan of monotone but nothing jumped out at me as
being a negative. +0
15:17 < abadger1999> +0
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15:17 < MrBawb> +0
15:17 < stahnma> -1, why support more things....
15:18 < skvidal> +0
15:18 < couf> +0
15:18 * mmcgrath has to admit this comes down to monotone -1 and elfutils +1.
15:19 < skvidal> mmcgrath: right
15:20 < mmcgrath> a 5 minute vote might seem kind of long.
15:21 < abadger1999> Who's going to work on integrating monotone? Roland or one
15:22 < mmcgrath> 1 minute yet.
15:22 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: it'll have to be one of us unless he wants to
join the team.
15:22 < mmcgrath> which I'll try to get him to do but if thats all he's
going to do I fear it won't do us any good.
15:22 < mmcgrath> Either way its just knowledge. We can learn it.
15:22 < jima> oops
15:22 < mmcgrath> jima: you going to vote?
15:23 < mmcgrath> +0 can't decide.
15:23 < jima> -1 for monotone
15:23 < mmcgrath> =================== Voting Done ===============
15:23 < jima> no one's familiar with it, right?
15:23 < mmcgrath> So that makes +3-2=+1
15:23 < mmcgrath> So I'll start working out the details with Rolland.
15:23 * ricky appers.
15:24 < ricky> **appears
15:24 < mmcgrath> It could be there comes a technical hurdle or something else that
we can't overcome.
15:24 < mmcgrath> But for now we'll go forward under the assumption that
we're going to support monotone.
15:24 < mmcgrath> ricky: yo
15:24 * ivazquez will as well
15:25 < mmcgrath> allrighty
15:25 < mmcgrath> next topic
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15:25 < mmcgrath> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule
15:26 < mmcgrath> So not much going on on the sponsorship side. We're still
waiting on peer1 for their logo and info.
15:26 * MrBawb -> afk
15:26 * mmcgrath did add this to the wiki
15:26 < mmcgrath> .tiny
15:26 < mmcgrathbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2elthq
15:27 < mmcgrath> I'll be updating that documentation in coming weeks.
15:27 < mmcgrath> Before FUDCon.
15:27 < mmcgrath> Nothing new on the SOP front.
15:28 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: kickstart and puppet SOP's worked well
15:28 < mmcgrath> ahhh yes /me forgot dgilmore got to test those this week.
15:28 < mmcgrath> On the sponsorship front we've also got J5 working with us to
do some development work. he's now on the sysadmin-test group.
15:28 < dgilmore> only minnor issues and part of that is probably that i prefer to
use the cycaleds and serial console
15:29 < mmcgrath> <nod>
15:29 < mmcgrath> Alrighty. So thats all I've got
15:29 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: can you give us a quick overview of what we did with the
builders this last week?
15:29 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Builder
15:29 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: sure
15:30 < dgilmore> so to start with I built a new hub
15:30 < dgilmore> its a xen guest on Xen1
15:30 < dgilmore> when we switched over i shut the builders down
15:30 < dgilmore> brough the new hub up and got it in place
15:31 < dgilmore> then one by one did a reinstall on the builders
15:31 < dgilmore> we made a slight change in the way the builders are put together
15:31 < dgilmore> we made /var/lib/mock a raid0 with ext2 on it
15:31 < dgilmore> it should give a small speed improvement in builds
15:32 < dgilmore> and if a drive dies we dont care that we lost the file system
15:32 < dgilmore> ppc4 had some quirks
15:32 < dgilmore> i had to change the drive it boos off in the SP
15:32 < dgilmore> hammer2 is still the only physical x86_64 host
15:33 < dgilmore> the rest of the x86_64 boxes are xen guests
15:33 < mmcgrath> solid
15:33 < dgilmore> so thats the run down
15:33 < dgilmore> any questions
15:33 < mmcgrath> all in all it seems like things are back in good order right?
15:33 < dgilmore> yes
15:33 < dgilmore> all done
15:33 * mmcgrath wishes ppc1 would get back in to order.
15:33 < jcollie> yeah builds are back to a decent speed
15:33 < dgilmore> we now are using mock 0.9.x
15:33 < ivazquez> Should we perhaps get another x86_64 box? Or are we fine with what
15:34 * dgilmore too stupid ibm
15:34 < dgilmore> we have 4 x86_64
15:34 < dgilmore> we could always use more
15:34 < dgilmore> ivazquez: we do have replacement hardware just need power for it
15:34 < mmcgrath> We have a whole blade center sitting on the floor somewhere
waiting to get installed.
15:34 < ivazquez> I can't help but think of what would happen if it goes down
hard (knock on wood).
15:34 < mmcgrath> the earliest I've heard is january.
15:35 * skvidal holds his breath
15:35 * skvidal passes out from holding his breath
15:35 < mmcgrath> heh
15:35 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: have anything else on the builders?
15:35 * mmcgrath notes dgilmore is sitting just 10 feet from him.
15:36 < mmcgrath> he says no :)
15:36 < mmcgrath> ok
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15:36 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they want to discuss?
15:36 < skvidal> mmcgrath: can you reach out and hit dgilmore from there?
15:36 < mmcgrath> skvidal: not quite.
15:36 < mmcgrath> I could hit him with an orange.
15:36 < skvidal> mmcgrath: lean over
15:36 < skvidal> oo oo
15:36 < skvidal> good
15:36 < skvidal> throw fruit
15:36 < mmcgrath> heheh
15:37 < skvidal> ook
15:37 * dgilmore slaps skvidal
15:37 < mmcgrath> Ok, if no one has anything else they'd like to discuss
I'll close the meeting in 30.
15:37 < mmcgrath> 15
15:37 < abadger1999> MrBawb: Want to update us on Moin?
15:38 < dgilmore> abadger1999: he dropped off
15:38 < mmcgrath> thats a good thing to talk about
15:38 < mmcgrath> MrBawb: you still afk?
15:38 < mmcgrath> we can wait a bit and see if he appears.
15:38 < abadger1999> Oh well.
15:38 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: we'll nab him next time.
15:39 * mmcgrath creates ticket for it to make sure
15:39 < mmcgrath> ok, anyone have anything else? if not I'll close in 30.
15:39 * dgilmore hands mmcgrath toys
15:40 < mmcgrath> a10
15:40 * ricky sees collaboration server :)
15:40 < mmcgrath> ricky: its comin :)
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15:40 < ricky> Cool.
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