19:59 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's
20:00 * sijis is here.
20:00 * johe is around
20:00 * dgilmore is here
20:01 * mdomsch waves
20:01 * ricky
20:01 < mmcgrath> K, lets get started
20:01 * SmootherFrOgZ is here
20:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Release
20:02 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:02 * mharris is everywhere
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1387
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1387 (New Website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac -
20:02 < mmcgrath> ricky: we all set there?
20:02 < ricky> Yup, and I'll be here to push it on release day.
20:02 < ricky> I'll do more link checking today
20:03 < mmcgrath> excellent.
20:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1389
20:03 < mmcgrath> tracker ticket
20:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1389 (Release Day Ticket) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac
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20:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1390
20:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1390 (Verify permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac
20:03 < mmcgrath> So the permissions were messed up this morning, they are now 750
20:03 < mmcgrath> but were 755
20:03 * mmcgrath pings warthog9 to see if he's syncing properly now
20:03 -!- smooge [n=smooge(a)nausicaa.unm.edu] has joined #fedora-meeting
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20:05 < mmcgrath> k, looks like he's all good
20:05 < mmcgrath> smooge: how's it going?
20:05 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1391
20:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1391 (Add MirrorManager redirects) - Fedora
Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1391
20:05 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: ?
20:05 < smooge> mmcgrath, trying to get done with my current job
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20:06 < mmcgrath> smooge: I'm sure tha'ts fun
20:07 < mmcgrath> IIRC this one's done but we need to remove them after F11
20:07 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1392
20:07 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1392 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac
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20:07 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: whats involved in that
20:07 < smooge> mmcgrath, yeah.. its the classic grieving process and they are uhm
stuck on anger at the moment :)
20:08 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I email them and say "hey there's a release on
this day" and then I say "it slipped to this day"
20:08 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: k
20:08 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1393
20:08 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1393 (Infrastructure Change Freeze) - Fedora
Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1393
20:08 < sijis> why do we need to notify them? (just curious)
20:08 < mmcgrath> Still in effect.
20:09 < mmcgrath> sijis: mostly coordination. They provide a lot of our network
infrastructure now. It'd be bad for them to schedule an outage or something on a
20:09 < sijis> understood.
20:09 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: we should remind everyone to send change requests
20:09 < mmcgrath> we'll have been frozen for a month after F11 ships. so much
stuff piling up :-/
20:09 < mmcgrath> yeah, every make sure you're still sending change requests.
20:09 < mmcgrath> it's only _really_ serious during this final freeze.
20:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1394
20:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1394 (Common Issues on the wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure
- Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1394
20:10 < mmcgrath> this is a release day ticket, ianweller will handle it day of
20:10 < mmcgrath> same with
20:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1395
20:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1395 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac -
20:10 < mmcgrath> though that one is just release day, we all talk about it
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20:11 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any other questions?
20:11 < dgilmore> none
20:12 < Jorn23> I have a question.
20:12 < mmcgrath> K, so the release will hopefully go nice and smoothe
20:12 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: sure
20:12 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: what is it?
20:12 < Jorn23> Will the freeze be lifted once Fedora 11 has been released, or will
the freeze remain - let's say - for a week after thee release?
20:13 < Jorn23> the release*
20:13 < ricky> It's lifted one day after the release
20:13 < ricky> Er, 24 hours
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20:14 < Jorn23> Ah, alright.
20:14 < mmcgrath> yeah, just till the day after.
20:15 < mmcgrath> OK, so next topic
20:15 < mmcgrath> hosting
20:15 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Hosting
20:15 < mmcgrath> i want peoples input on -
20:15 < mmcgrath> So give it a read and comment.
20:16 < ricky> Just curious - how many outside people mirror alt?
20:16 < ricky> And what are we going to do about secondary1 usually being at its
knees with apache already?
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20:17 < dgilmore> ricky: there is a few mirroring secondary arches
20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: I have yet to actually see it at its knees except for one
time a few weeks ago.
20:17 < mmcgrath> we'll just tune it properly.
20:17 < mmcgrath> also secondary1 will go away when the new mirrors are updated.
20:17 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: speaking of this im uploading s390 content right now
20:17 < ricky> Oh, new mirrors?
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20:18 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah, it's about 17 months since I requested them :)
20:18 < mmcgrath> so they're due to be ready soon.
20:18 < mmcgrath> actually right now they're blocking on our change freeze.
20:18 < ricky> Oh, so this is the netapp space?
20:18 < mmcgrath> yeah
20:18 < dgilmore> http://archive.kernel.org/fedora-alt/ kernel.org
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20:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: I think our mirror manager tracks that stuff, I can't
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20:20 < mdomsch> just 3 mirroring pub/alt/videos
20:20 < mdomsch> you have to ask it on a per-dir basis
20:20 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: is there a link on that?
20:20 < dgilmore> mdomsch: more doing secondary right
20:20 < mdomsch> wget -O -
20:20 < mmcgrath> sweet
20:21 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any problems with the policy as it's written
20:21 < sijis> how much space are we allocating? is it based on the request or is it
20:21 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: seems fine. its maybe a litlle vague on secondary
20:21 < mdomsch> wget -O -
20:21 < Jorn23> Just one note. Perhaps I missed it, but I cannot really see how to
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20:21 < mdomsch> shows 8
20:21 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: this isn't so much for secondary, that follows
already official patterns.
20:22 < johe> Jorn23, by ticket
20:22 < mmcgrath> the secondary archs are already approved to host content on that
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20:22 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ok, it was mentioned in there
20:22 < Jorn23> Johe: Alright, by default all requests go via trac tickets?
20:22 < mmcgrath> sijis: as much as we have there, we'll have to re-visit when
the new mirrors are ready.
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20:22 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: correct, we do almost all requests of any type via
20:23 < Jorn23> mmcgrath: Alright, good to know.
20:23 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: should I have /pub/alt/spins/FEL or just /pub/alt/FEL ?
20:24 < mdomsch> mmcgrath, whatever you want
20:24 < mdomsch> grouping spins makes sense
20:24 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: k
20:25 < mdomsch> mmcgrath, how about matching the releases/ tree
20:25 < mdomsch> so spins/11/FEL/
20:25 < mdomsch> spins/11/someotherspin
20:26 < mmcgrath> So anyone have any additional questions or comments on that?
Right now we have 2T or so available for it, I can expand that to, at most, 4T.
20:26 < mmcgrath> until the primary mirrors are ready.
20:26 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: worksforme
20:27 < mmcgrath> Ok, so next topic.
20:27 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- The Flood
20:27 < mmcgrath> So we've been frozen for a very long time.
20:27 < mmcgrath> and have accumulated a bunch of updates in that time.
20:27 < mmcgrath> I don't want us going and changing everything at once.
20:28 < mmcgrath> Just a handful of stuff that is in the pipeline - Migration to our
new memcached servers, pkgdb update, fas update, migration of cvs1 to different storage
and a lot of much smaller projects.
20:28 -!- comraderaikov is now known as comraderaikov|aw
20:28 < comraderaikov|aw> is away: Gone away for now. Be back soon.
20:28 -!- tatica is now known as tatica-out
20:28 < mdomsch> please keep the website, wiki, and mirror stuff as much untouched
as possible the first week...
20:28 < sijis> i think its looks fine.
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20:28 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: <nod>
20:28 < mmcgrath> and I want to change fas before pkgdb
20:29 < mdomsch> things that the few million users will see
20:29 < ricky> There will be a python-fedora update along with the one too, which
will take some work to push out.
20:29 < mmcgrath> not both at the same time because if we happen to run into
performance issues, it'll be very difficult to track down due to the nature of changes
20:29 < mmcgrath> ricky: define "some work"
20:29 < mmcgrath> and does the pkgdb or fas update block on that?
20:29 < ricky> Either messing with func or using puppet and making sure it gets run
everywhere it needs to
20:30 < ricky> If we want what's in FAS now added (which would be a good gain),
20:31 < mmcgrath> ricky: see #fedora-noc :)
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20:31 < mmcgrath> ricky: k, so we'll do python-fedora first.
20:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss on that?
20:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any major changes to make in the next month?
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20:32 * mmcgrath guesses not.
20:32 < mmcgrath> and with that
20:32 < mdomsch> none here
20:32 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:32 * ricky pokes lmacken
20:32 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything general to talk about?
20:32 < mmcgrath> smooge: anything?
20:32 < mmcgrath> lmacken: anything?
20:32 < smooge> one sec
20:32 < smooge> sorry I don't have any topics this week
20:32 < mdomsch> how about adding rsync modules to torrent1 and spins to expose the
20:33 < lmacken> yes
20:33 < smooge> 2 weeks I will have some
20:33 < lmacken> Fedora Community!
20:33 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: I think that's reasonable. Do you want to take that
or should I?
20:33 < lmacken> So, as of about 20 minutes ago, we're pretty much ready to push
Fedora Community into staging.
20:33 < mdomsch> I can. Plan to expose .torrent files only, not the underlying
20:33 < mmcgrath> lmacken: one sec
20:33 < lmacken> mmcgrath: yep :)
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20:34 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: So my torrent-foo is still weak. What would I need to
become a seeder?
20:34 < dgilmore> only that sparc sparc64 and s390x trees are getting very close to
primary arch fedora trees
20:34 < dgilmore> ive been pushing content in daily
20:34 < mdomsch> mine's not great either. Basically, put content in the
expected directories that the .torrent specifies
20:34 < mdomsch> then start the torrent and wait for the traacker to come online
20:35 * nirik nods.
20:35 < mdomsch> I'll think about it and get back
20:35 < mdomsch> or if someone else with torrent-foo wants to, even better
20:35 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: thanks, if you want to test ahead of time I'd be
happy to. I'd like to have SOP instructions for these for people.
20:35 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: anything else for now?
20:35 < mdomsch> nope
20:35 < mdomsch> lmacken, you're up
20:35 < lmacken> So, we're pretty much ready to put Fedora Community into
20:36 < lmacken> The TurboGears2/Moksha/Fedora Community stack is all packaged and
under review. I have publictest16 hooked up to my TG2 fedorapeople repo, and it seems to
be working great thus far, and hasn't caused any conflicts with TG1 as far as I can
20:36 < lmacken> J5 made the initial puppet config in a separate branch in our
puppet git repo.
20:36 < lmacken> The next step is to push this on to app1.stg, and make sure it
works, along with all of the other TG1 apps on there. I was planning on sending a change
request today about this. If it's not approved, we'll keep the instance of pt16
for now, and deploy after the change freeze.
20:36 < lmacken> questions, comments, concerns?
20:36 < mmcgrath> lmacken: how long, in your best guess, will it be before the rpms
are completely in Fedora proper?
20:36 < lmacken> mmcgrath: ideally before F11....
20:36 < lmacken> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TurboGears2
20:36 < lmacken> we still need more reviewers
20:37 < mmcgrath> specifically the deps, not so much the the actual code for the
20:37 < lmacken> yeah, I'm shooting to get it all in by F11... but it all
depends on how many reviewers we get to help
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20:37 < mmcgrath> <nod> I'll send some bugs out on the list.
20:37 < lmacken> cool
20:37 < mmcgrath> Ok, so with lmacken wanting to use staging now is a good of time
as any to ask...
20:37 < mmcgrath> anyone mind if I rebuild staging?
20:38 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: ?
20:38 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: ?
20:38 < mmcgrath> ricky: ?
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20:38 * mmcgrath thinks they're the only ones currently using it.
20:38 < mdomsch> fine by me
20:38 < ricky> mmcgrath: No complaints from me, just let me know when you do
20:38 * ricky can help out with doing that today if you want too
20:38 < mmcgrath> ricky: I was actually just going to do proxy and app
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20:38 < mmcgrath> I want to make sure it won't mess toshio up.
20:39 < ricky> Ah, OK
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20:39 < mmcgrath> lmacken: once that's done you can start getting your
community/puppet tests out. I'll help out with puppet stuff wherever I can.
20:39 < mmcgrath> modules modules modules :)
20:39 < lmacken> mmcgrath: great
20:40 < mmcgrath> lmacken: I'll dedicate some time to doing metrics and testing
as well. Try to see if there's any low hanging fruit to poke at.
20:40 < mmcgrath> or it might all just work fine, never know :)
20:40 < mmcgrath> lmacken: and I'm positive you told me this already, but this
is all mod_wsgi'd ready right?
20:40 < lmacken> that would be great :)
20:40 < lmacken> mmcgrath: of course
20:40 < mmcgrath> solid, ok.
20:40 * abadger1999 reads up
20:40 < mmcgrath> So anyone have any other questions on Fedora Community?
20:40 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: just wanted to know if you were using the staging
environment for anything
20:41 < abadger1999> I'm working out pkgdb-0.4 bugs there.
20:41 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: do you know when you'll be done? I'd like to
20:41 < mmcgrath> lmacken: also what namespace is this going under again?
20:42 < lmacken> mmcgrath: yep
20:42 < mmcgrath> K
20:43 < mmcgrath> So anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:43 < SmootherFrOgZ> yup, lmacken any news about epel support into bodhi ?
20:43 < lmacken> SmootherFrOgZ: that's not something that is on my plate at the
moment... dgilmore may know more about the status of that
20:44 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: Hmm... how long will a rebuild take?
20:44 < abadger1999> And when do you want to do it?
20:44 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: any thought, need help ?
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20:45 < abadger1999> I could just tar up the pkgdb there, you can rebuild, and then
make sure everything's checked in at leisure.
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20:45 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: a day or two, it can wait though.
20:45 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: ive started
20:45 < dgilmore> i need to finish it
20:45 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: k, I'll just make sure to coordinate with you
20:46 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: lets get together after the meeting
20:46 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: k
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20:46 < mmcgrath> Ok, so anyone have anything else for the meeting?
20:46 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: k. Up to you. I can do it anytime.
20:46 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: solid
20:46 < mmcgrath> If not we'll close the meeting in 30
20:47 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: ggruener: either of you want to talk about the nagios
-> zabbix migration?
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20:47 * mmcgrath will assume they're presently away
20:48 < Jorn23> mmcgrath: I think we are pretty close on finalising it
20:48 < mmcgrath> oh, there you are.
20:48 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: excellent, whats left?
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20:49 < Jorn23> mmcgrath: We have the koji checks left to do, and the transifex. We
have to look into how the current NRPE setup is for the Koji checks. Also there's a
custom script in nagios called check_koji
20:49 < ggruener> mmcgrath: i add in the next few days the last tests to check the
20:49 < mmcgrath> Sounds good guys, anything else?
20:49 < mmcgrath> Alrighty, so we will close the meeting in 20 (cheating this time)
20:49 < Jorn23> I think we may need your help with the scripts running on the boxes
- I am not sure if Gregor has shell access
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20:50 < mmcgrath> Jorn23: sure thing, we can get you access to what you need.
20:50 < mmcgrath> 10
20:50 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End